Yahoo Groups archive

Homebrew PCBs

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:05 UTC

Thread

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode UV LED

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode UV LED

2004-10-05 by Thomas

does anyone have any info about the photo Resist UV Spectrum range for "Kinsten Presensitized" PCB's ?
I would like to look at this Laser/ UV LED in more detail , speed is not impotant right now but to get it working first will be nice ...
Thomas
Show quoted textHide quoted text
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sciciora 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:31 PM
  Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode



  I did some thinking about this as well.  I found on this list that
  some pre-sensitised PCB are sensitive in the range of 340 to 400 nm,
  and peak at about 360nm.  The LED that I bought has an output at
  405nm.  As far as power, just move slower!  A co-worker's friend, who
  works with optics as a consultant, said it wouldn't be hard to pick
  some lenses and fiber from Edmund scientific to foccus most of the
  LED's light into the fiber.  And if I were more serious I might be
  able to get him to help me design something, but due to too many
  projects, trying this will most likely just be a through experimnet
  for me...

  - Steven Ciciora

  --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@h...>
  wrote:
  > 
  > >From: "Mike" <yahoo@d...>
  > >Reply-To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
  > >To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
  > >Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers,  UV Laser Diode
  > >Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:41:20 -0000
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <teecee@c...> wrote:
  > >
  > > > This UV Laser thing has me thinking (dangerous I know)  so slap me
  > >for bringing this up !! but during a few search's I come across some
  > >info that uses a UV Laser Diode in a DVD-R Burner & goes on about
  > >Photoresist being part of the Layer that records the Data, if its
  > >similar stuff or not i dont know. Maybe the UV Laser is to small and
  > >possible the focal point could be changed  to get a wider beam for
  > >Exposure, sounds easy enough but I bet it aint !!
  > >
  > >Possibly more useful than Lasers, Non-laser UV LEDs are available on
  > >Ebay etc for around 10-20c each. They seem to work fine directly off
  > >2x1.5v AA cells. The beam is divergent at an angle of approx 20
  > >degrees on the ones I have. I would imagine that it would be
  > >focussable with relatively inexpensive lenses too, or get a bunch of
  > >fibre optics and adapt an old dot matrix printer :o)
  > 
  > 
  > The wavelength needs checking, to make sure it is correct. The power
  also 
  > needs to be checked, I don't think that UV LEDs will have enough power.
  > 
  > Leon





  Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs 


        Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
              ADVERTISEMENT
             
       
       


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Yahoo! Groups Links

    a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/
      
    b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      
    c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode UV LED

2004-10-05 by Thomas

some interesting stuff here and a "How To" on UV .... :)
http://www.uvprocess.com/
Show quoted textHide quoted text
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode UV LED


  does anyone have any info about the photo Resist UV Spectrum range for "Kinsten Presensitized" PCB's ?
  I would like to look at this Laser/ UV LED in more detail , speed is not impotant right now but to get it working first will be nice ...
  Thomas


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: sciciora 
    To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:31 PM
    Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode



    I did some thinking about this as well.  I found on this list that
    some pre-sensitised PCB are sensitive in the range of 340 to 400 nm,
    and peak at about 360nm.  The LED that I bought has an output at
    405nm.  As far as power, just move slower!  A co-worker's friend, who
    works with optics as a consultant, said it wouldn't be hard to pick
    some lenses and fiber from Edmund scientific to foccus most of the
    LED's light into the fiber.  And if I were more serious I might be
    able to get him to help me design something, but due to too many
    projects, trying this will most likely just be a through experimnet
    for me...

    - Steven Ciciora

    --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@h...>
    wrote:
    > 
    > >From: "Mike" <yahoo@d...>
    > >Reply-To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
    > >To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers,  UV Laser Diode
    > >Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:41:20 -0000
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <teecee@c...> wrote:
    > >
    > > > This UV Laser thing has me thinking (dangerous I know)  so slap me
    > >for bringing this up !! but during a few search's I come across some
    > >info that uses a UV Laser Diode in a DVD-R Burner & goes on about
    > >Photoresist being part of the Layer that records the Data, if its
    > >similar stuff or not i dont know. Maybe the UV Laser is to small and
    > >possible the focal point could be changed  to get a wider beam for
    > >Exposure, sounds easy enough but I bet it aint !!
    > >
    > >Possibly more useful than Lasers, Non-laser UV LEDs are available on
    > >Ebay etc for around 10-20c each. They seem to work fine directly off
    > >2x1.5v AA cells. The beam is divergent at an angle of approx 20
    > >degrees on the ones I have. I would imagine that it would be
    > >focussable with relatively inexpensive lenses too, or get a bunch of
    > >fibre optics and adapt an old dot matrix printer :o)
    > 
    > 
    > The wavelength needs checking, to make sure it is correct. The power
    also 
    > needs to be checked, I don't think that UV LEDs will have enough power.
    > 
    > Leon





    Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs 


          Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
                ADVERTISEMENT
               
         
         


  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Yahoo! Groups Links

      a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/
        
      b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
      Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        
      c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



  Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs 


        Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
              ADVERTISEMENT
             
       
       


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Yahoo! Groups Links

    a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/
      
    b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      
    c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode UV LED

2004-10-05 by Adam Seychell

Here is another interesting article on photoresists exposure.

http://www.circuitree.com/CDA/ArticleInformation/features/BNP__Features__Item/0,2133,3647,00.html

Doing some searching, the photoresists typically have a sensitivity of 
around 60 to 100mJ/cm^2 at 350nm. So if you know the light intensity of 
your UV LED you can estimate time for exposure. I have a feeling UV 
LED's are far too weak to exposure resists.

Adam


Thomas wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> does anyone have any info about the photo Resist UV Spectrum range for "Kinsten Presensitized" PCB's ?
> I would like to look at this Laser/ UV LED in more detail , speed is not impotant right now but to get it working first will be nice ...
> Thomas
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sciciora 
>   To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:31 PM
>   Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers, UV Laser Diode
> 
> 
> 
>   I did some thinking about this as well.  I found on this list that
>   some pre-sensitised PCB are sensitive in the range of 340 to 400 nm,
>   and peak at about 360nm.  The LED that I bought has an output at
>   405nm.  As far as power, just move slower!  A co-worker's friend, who
>   works with optics as a consultant, said it wouldn't be hard to pick
>   some lenses and fiber from Edmund scientific to foccus most of the
>   LED's light into the fiber.  And if I were more serious I might be
>   able to get him to help me design something, but due to too many
>   projects, trying this will most likely just be a through experimnet
>   for me...
> 
>   - Steven Ciciora
> 
>   --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@h...>
>   wrote:
>   > 
>   > >From: "Mike" <yahoo@d...>
>   > >Reply-To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>   > >To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>   > >Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: OHP Film & Laser Printers,  UV Laser Diode
>   > >Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:41:20 -0000
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <teecee@c...> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > > This UV Laser thing has me thinking (dangerous I know)  so slap me
>   > >for bringing this up !! but during a few search's I come across some
>   > >info that uses a UV Laser Diode in a DVD-R Burner & goes on about
>   > >Photoresist being part of the Layer that records the Data, if its
>   > >similar stuff or not i dont know. Maybe the UV Laser is to small and
>   > >possible the focal point could be changed  to get a wider beam for
>   > >Exposure, sounds easy enough but I bet it aint !!
>   > >
>   > >Possibly more useful than Lasers, Non-laser UV LEDs are available on
>   > >Ebay etc for around 10-20c each. They seem to work fine directly off
>   > >2x1.5v AA cells. The beam is divergent at an angle of approx 20
>   > >degrees on the ones I have. I would imagine that it would be
>   > >focussable with relatively inexpensive lenses too, or get a bunch of
>   > >fibre optics and adapt an old dot matrix printer :o)
>   > 
>   > 
>   > The wavelength needs checking, to make sure it is correct. The power
>   also 
>   > needs to be checked, I don't think that UV LEDs will have enough power.
>   > 
>   > Leon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs 
> 
> 
>         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
>               ADVERTISEMENT
>              
>        
>        
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/
>       
>     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>       
>     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.