Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

> I second the idea that some people get banned messages.

Nobody disputed that. That's what happens in moderated lists.

> Myself, for 
> example.

Me too.

> And totally on topic non insulting stuff. Just Logic 
> thinking.

It's a big misunderstanding that it has anything to do with insults. I've seen 
a lot of insults make it past moderation. Read the list rules, there are 
clear reasons for blocking messages and the moderators will point out clearly 
the reason for blocking it, referring to the rules. And I still have to see 
the first example where blocking it had anything to do with the expressed 
opionion, rather than the fear that the posting might result in an endless 
and useless flamewar.

> I think LUG moderators are getting too close to Apple

I wish they were, because then complaining to the list WOULD be the same as 
complaining to Apple. Unfortunately this is not the case. And I wish people 
would finally realize this.

> and  
> they allow messages from some people (betatesters and people they
> know), but if the same thing is said by a non trusted one that´s
> banned.

Some people are whitelisted because it's simply too much work to moderate 
everyone. However if they post things that go against the LUG rules (which is 
not about expressing certain opinions but more about causing flamewars) 
they'll be taken off the whitelist again.

The notion that the moderators block posts because they don't like what's in 
it, is disproven by the fact that you see posts about any opinion on Logic or 
the moderators themselves, good and bad, appearing on the LUG. Even including 
the weirdest conspiracy theories about Apple. The moderators start blocking 
entire discussions when they end up going in circles, and in fact they are 
clearly stating the reason if that happens. Now if your post gets blocked, 
and you waver the explanation thinking "oh they prolly didn't like what I 
wrote" and then write about that on another list (like this one), you feed 
silly rumours like these. Like when it was claimed here that it was "only 
allowed to praise Logic 7.1, not express concerns" whereas actually the whole 
useless discussion about what 7.1 would or would not do, was closed by the 
moderators.

> I had a censored complain about being censored...

And what exactly was in it?

> Still a good  
> place for info.

Yes, and it wouldn't be if it wasn't for the moderation.

Maurits.