On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, YAVUZ AKYAZICI wrote: > I just tried to point Apple's and Emagic's wrong doing in a polite way, > LUG moderator did not approve the message. > I unsubscribed from LUG. > I am very close to swearing off Apple and Emagic. > I am going to give it a few days to calm my self down. Speaking as someone who's gone through a few corporate mergers, I can tell you that there's usually a long, long period of adjustment when it comes to the support staff. The bigger the companies, the worse the confusion. I've had to deal with people calling me for support about products I didn't even know we made, over a year after the merger. It's poor interorganizational communication that's behind it. I'm guessing Emagic and Apple haven't worked out who does what in terms of customer support, since on the grand scale of Apple's software and hardware base, there are probably a lot more calls about OS X printing problems than there are about Logic, especially older versions, so it's not a top priority. It's probably even worse if they've outsourced their front-level support, because then you get some guy who is familiar with all the basics but has no clue about anything specific. I spent 3 hours on the phone with Dell once trying to convince some outsourced support guy that my brand-new Dell laptop's bluetooth adapter was in fact a factory component and no, I shouldn't be calling Intel about it. That sort of thing is a nightmare. Tech support is troublesome even in the best case. The easiest way I've found to deal with ths fingerpointing is to document everything. Get support peoples' names and extensions, and if they redirect you to somewhere else, ask for specific contact information for that redirect so you can be sure that the support guy isn't just tyring to pass you off to close the call and up his personal rating. Then, if calling the new support people, tell them you were referred specifically to the new people by person x at extension1234 so if they aren't the right person either, they can pinpoint the communication failure. Keep hounding them for a specific name for support, and if they don't give you a straight answer (i.e. "just call apple's main number") then ask to speak to a manager and start all over again. It's furstrating, but basically if you're dilligent enough you'll either get where you need to go or become enough of a problem to the support staff that they'll address your issue just to make you stop. This procedure has worked well for me on many occasions. _______________________________________________________ Eric Oehler / wonko@... / www.nulldevice.com Synthetic music for synthetic people.
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: What you can't say on LUG
2005-04-20 by wonko@nulldevice.com
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