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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: What you can't say on LUG

2005-04-20 by YAVUZ AKYAZICI

On Apr 20, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Maurits van de Kamp wrote:

>
>> Are you really curious or you just want to pick a few points to grill
>> me.
>
> I was really curious.

Well then read my last post about XS-Key authorization problems.
It is there (Almost the same post). Most of it anyways.

> I'm trying to compensate for the opinionation the other way around. 
> Before I
> can agree or disagree with any kind of moderation, doesn't it seem 
> logical
> that I'd like to see what we're talking about here?

Yes, but you wrote most of your conclusions before reading the original.

>> It is the moderators who find kind excuses to protect Apple at the
>> expense of preventing
>> people like me from expressing our selves freely.
>
> And THAT is the lie that I'm trying to fight. It's been proven over 
> and over
> again, they do NOT protect Apple because all those stories about bad 
> bad
> Apple HAVE MADE IT TO THE LIST lots and lots of times!!!!!

I have not seen this for the past 6 months.
I will do another search.
My search of XS-Key authorizations did not return any of my exact 
problem.

> Are you totally blind or just reading selectively? Search the gmane 
> archives
> for "support" and see how much critisism the LUG allows.
>
>> Why do you think that is?
>
> Why? Because LUG moderators are evil and Cubase forum moderators are 
> Gods?

I am sorry but that IS childish analogy.
You must know I meant they are smarter to listen to their customers.
It helps them make more money.

>>> we go again.. LUG is NOT APPLE!!!!!!
>>
>> I can not believe you are so ignorant.
>
> Ignorance is complaining to a user group, repeating the complaint over 
> and
> over again, and then say the software company is not listening to you.

That would be true only if I had done just that.
My XS-Key search did not bring up any results.
Even though Apple's bad support might have been mentioned before,
my strategy of talking to them was not.
It could help someone.
It sure helped me to get what I want.
Your ignorance starts when you do not read between my lines to 
understand this
but manipulate my post to help you prove your point.

>
>> I have ben following LUG since version 2.5.
>> I know what is what.
>> People used to say "This is not the bug-report forum." at Emagic 
>> times.
>> However, it did help for a lot of bug fixes.
>
> Because some people take things they read on the list to Apple support 
> -
> something you can do yourself.

Yes, but then again most potential Logic buyers or Logic 6 platinum 
users
do not read there. My post was for them not for Apple even though
Apple might benefit from it if they had read it.

>> Well, that is not what Apple tech said.
>> He said "Emagic should take care of support for version 6."
>
> Well then tell him Emagic doesn't exist anymore.

I did. You can try the same thing
The number is 800 275 2273.
They still say otherwise.

Yavuz AKYAZICI
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