> Lets take this situation to more ridiculous extreme. > Say you sampled one drum > hit from Madonna, and included that on your greatest > pop song that made 10 > million. Would it be fair for Madonna to demand all > the money and you get > nothing? No, but then if you had only sampled one drum hit, she wouldn't win a 100% royalty in court, either. I'm not familiar with the Vervepipe song in question, but the impression I get from the discussion here is that the Stones riff is pretty integral to the song and not modified to a significant extent. And the award given in court is almost inevitably far higher than a fee negotiated up front would be. There are, I believe, some unofficial industry standards for how much to charge for samples of varying length and recognizability, or at least that's the impression I was left with after reading a Beastie Boys interview, recently. The point is to negotiate reasonable fees for EVERY sample up front, to avoid costly lawsuits and punitive damages later. Even on a song which consists 100% of sampled music, there would still be money leftover for the artist who combined those samples in a new manner, because the 'standard' percentages are very reasonable. As a musician, if someone else comes to me and says I really like some aspect of your work and I've used it in a song, let's negotiate an agreement as to how much I should pay you in order to release it, in all likelihood, I'm going to let them use it for free, providing they aren't just blatantly ripping off my song, wholesale. However, if they release without permission and the first time I hear it is when it reaches number 10 on the charts, I'm certainly going to take my pound of flesh in a courtroom. I don't fault the Stones on that one at all. And if the jury and/or judge felt that the Stones' contribution to the Vervepipe hit was worth 100% of the royalties, then that's the risk they took by releasing without permission. As musicians, I find it very hard to believe that the stones would have charged 100% for the riff in a pre-release negotiation. But then, I don't download mp3's or rip friends cd's either, because that's stealing from people just like me. I may have a listen via mp3, and I'll even rip a cd at a friend's house when I first hear it, but if I haven't bought a copy of my own within a couple of weeks, I delete the mp3. It is just a point of honor for me, as a musician, to not steal the work of other musicians, either via mp3 or sampling. --sam __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Lawsuits (was M-Audio 88Pro
2004-12-30 by Samuel Gendler
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