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Re: [Logic_Cafe] And in this paradise

2004-12-31 by dennis gunn

On Dec 31, 2004, at 4:42 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> Well maybe if people weren't paying $100 tickets to empower Mick
>  they'd have more than dirty dishes and a turkey sandwich.
>
>
>
>  Thats a good point -

What is good about it?  I have never paid 100 bucks to see the stones.  
I have never paid anything to see the stones.  I have never seen them.  
It is not a legal requirement that everyone pay 100 bucks to see the 
stones. Only the people who want to see them need pay it.  If I liked 
them so much that I wanted to see them I would happily pay the 100 
bucks.  I do not begrudge the stones their dedicated fans.  I do not 
feel that the dedicated fans owe *me* something because they are 
willing to pay 100 buck to see the stones.  It is just a totally non 
sequitur argument.

Furthermore, the last show I played was a sellout and about 900 people 
payed about $45 to get in.

Do you know how much of that I got as a band member?  About 2% of the 
door.  The show was a one off and we rehearsed as a band 6 hours a day 
for 5 days.  And before that I rehearsed the songs a lot on my own.  So 
even though the band  I am in can sell out a reasonable hall at $45 a 
ticket we can only do it a very limited number of times a year and when 
we do it is not like we are raking in the cash.

I personally wish we could play more often and the tickets cost less, 
but the system simply does not allow that.

> which affects all of us in some way. Music has become a huge mega 
> business - with everyone from ticketron to the record companies taking 
> big chunks - so that the artist gets relatively little. Instead of 
> muscians playing at the pleasure of lords, the top musicians have 
> become lords themselves. 

Bullshit.  Top musicians work hard for what they have.  The aristocracy 
of old was ashamed to be seen doing any work of any kind.  The only 
endeavors that they were willing to be seen to be doing were hobbies. 
They were not just useless they were proud of being useless.

> And 1/1000 of 1% make millions, and maybe 1/10 of 1% make a living, 
> and the rest have day jobs and dreams - who pay out a lot more for 
> equipment than they make.
>
>  But I think the internet and MP3s will change that for the better - 
> where more of us can be heard, and there is greater democracy. Just as 
> we have with web blogs for people to share opinions and ideas, music 
> will become more broad.

If that were the case it would already have happened but what the 
reality is that the vast bulk of the music that people share on the 
internet is just the same top artists that are selling albums.  I know 
of no successful artist that "broke in" via the internet.

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