Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:18 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/4/05 6:20:44 PM, bill@... writes:
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> I find it mind-boggling that people try to defend the theft of music by
>  giving it a puerile euphemism like "file sharing".
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>  I think Ubik's comment was that he wanted to share his own music and 
> wished artists could do that for the love of their craft.

The love of their craft is precisely the reason people protect the 
concept of intellectual property, because without protection of it 
there can be no professional songwriters because there will be no way 
for them to get paid for what they do.

> I don't think he advocated borrowing from someone else without their 
> permission.

That is exactly what you are advocating when you say the Vervepipe 
should not have been prosecuted for borrowing the Stones property 
without their permission.

> As for me, I am in agreement with intellectual property rights for 
> songwriters,

Apparently not.

> and thats why I felt the Vervepipe should get >some< compensation for 
> thier creative endeavors. That doesn't mean its ok to steal samples.

They did steal samples and they got fined for it.  If they had not 
gotten fined then they would have basically been rewarded for stealing 
the samples and that would have encouraged other people to do the same 
thing.  Honestly I cannot see what is difficult to comprehend here.


>  Jokes are written by human beings - creative and clever ones - and 
> comedians make livings just as muscians do.

And the comedians who get paid to use the jokes pay them as do the 
people who publish the books with the jokes in them.

> So do chefs. Check out www.foodnetwork.com for thousands of recipes 
> from tv shows. New recipes are created all the time by people who went 
> to chef school and spent years praticing their craft and using their 
> creativity.

And they get money for publishing recipes.  That's why they publish 
them.  And if there were not intellectual property rights to protect 
those publications they probably would not publish them.


> Hopefully songwriters will continue to be compensated as they have 
> been but with the MP3 model - all of you buying only one song instead 
> of an album means that the songwriters for those other songs don't get 
> royalties - therefore the playing field will become more uneven.

Which means that the guy who writes the song that sells gets paid and 
the guys who don't write songs that sell don't.

> Unfortunately the cat is out of the bag for mp3's just as its easy to 
> send email jokes and email recipes, people share music now.

You have already said that and it does not work.  People do not get 
paid for forwarding a Joke or a Recipe so there simply is no cut of any 
royalty to be sent to the original author.

> So the business model has changed, and people need to adapt to make 
> money.

Adapt how?  By letting the Vervepipe screw them at will?