Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Fernstudio <fernstudio@t...> wrote:

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> In my tests of various speakers, there was an interesting result in one 
> test.  I had a jazz track where the drummer was using brushes.  On the 
> NS10's I could barely hear the "swish" of the brush (it was there but 
> just low in the mix).  On some of the higher end monitors such as the 
> Genelecs, Dynaudios, and A.D.A.M.s, it was present and at an 
> appropriate volume relative to the rest of the mix.  At that point was 
> where I nixed the NS10's.  This track had live drums but I thought 
> about the scenario where I'm doing a tune with sampled drums and the 
> swish is a sample, separate from the other brush snare hits.  On the 
> NS10's I'd be mixing the "swish" much higher than I would on more 
> accurate monitors.  Or, rather, since I know about this, I'd be mixing 
> it lower on purpose to compensate and guess at what level it would be 
> right.
> 
> Here is where a subtlety between low and high end monitors shows.  That 
> "swish" is well within the NS10's specs for frequency response, and 
> since they are fairly bright to begin with, you would figure that it 
> would have all been there.  The mix sounded fine being played back 
> through the NS10's and better on some of the better monitors.  That is 
> not how I want to mix though. 

Hi Fernstudio,

Here's the deal.  Sure you listened on your Genelecs and other good speakers in your 
studio and the swish was there.  The trick is to go to your neighbor's house and drop the 
CD in their entertainment center and to get in a friend's car and drop the needle on the CD 
on his car setup, etc, etc, etc. Now I don't know this for sure but in many of the test cases 
outside of your enviroment, the swish will disappear which was what the 10m's were 
telling you.

There used to be a studio that had an FM  transmitter so he could broadcast through the 
air to his car radio.  This was pre CD when it was hard to get a good tape player in a car.

Another studio said that the true test was listening on AM radio in his convertible on the 
freeway with the  top down...... 

In other words, as has been stated here before, the environment will never be the same 
and I stand by my words that a good mix on NS10m's will sound good in more 
environments then any other.

I warned everyone about the rant that would ensue, just by mentioning this speaker....... :)

I have other topics  that I will bring up as we motor through time........ haha

Charlie
HFP Florida