Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

On Jan 7, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Charlie Massey wrote:
>  Here's the deal.  Sure you listened on your Genelecs and other good 
> speakers in your
>  studio and the swish was there.  The trick is to go to your 
> neighbor's house and drop the
>  CD in their entertainment center and to get in a friend's car and 
> drop the needle on the CD
>  on his car setup, etc, etc, etc. Now I don't know this for sure but 
> in many of the test cases
>  outside of your enviroment, the swish will disappear which was what 
> the 10m's were
>  telling you.

And on many other consumer systems they won't disappear and rather will 
become exaggerated and it is pretty much impossible to say which will 
do what.  If Yamaha NS10s dominated the consumer market there might be 
some validity to your line of reasoning but they don't so there isn't.  
So lets say he does nudge up the brushes so he can hear them on the the 
Yamahells and then he goes to his neighbors house and discovers to his 
horror that they totally dominate the mix.  The fact of the matter is 
if you mess with a mix to get it to sound right on some speaker with an 
uneven frequency response the only thing that you are assured of is 
that the mix will never sound quite right on anything that does not 
have the same uneven frequency response and quite likely it won't even 
sound right on them either.


>  There used to be a studio that had an FM  transmitter so he could 
> broadcast through the
>  air to his car radio.  This was pre CD when it was hard to get a good 
> tape player in a car.
>
>  Another studio said that the true test was listening on AM radio in 
> his convertible on the
>  freeway with the  top down......

All these tests tell you is what the mix sounds like when you can't 
hear it, and you can do whatever you want with your NS10s but they will 
not tell you what the mix will sound like on car speakers.


>  In other words, as has been stated here before, the environment will 
> never be the same
>  and I stand by my words that a good mix on NS10m's will sound good in 
> more
>  environments then any other.

The proof is in the puddin and as several others have said here the 
experience has been that the mixes I did on NS10s never translated as 
well or as universally as the ones I did on the BM6As.

NS10s are crap and Yamaha either had an incredible stroke of pure luck 
that they caught on or entered some bizarre three way pact with the NSA 
an the Beezlibub, or something, because it sure was not the sound or 
the accuracy of these speakers that made them so undeservedly 
successful.