Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

So, I got the chance to mix an album on Adam s3A speakers earlier this year. All I can say is WOW! I worked all day without ear fatigue and got some of nicest mixes ever. And I, like Man Parrish, have done quite a few "released" albums the past 30 years. Everything from Jazz, to Punkrock, to foreign language Asian music. I have owned/used Auratones (wish I still had a pair), NS-10 (glad I tossed then), Spika Speakers, many types of JBL's (used to call them BLURR), EV's, Altec Lancings (now I'm really dating myself) Tannoy red and blue, Genelec 1030 and 1031, Dyna Audio (ouch my ears hurt already, all digital is distorted, all digital is distorted, ALL DIGI... you get the picture)and my favorite, Meyer HD1's (yeah, yeah, yeah, reverb trails...) And, too many amplifiers to name (that's right the amps colored the sound too). Instead of mixing consoles (SSL, NEVE, AMEK, Trident, Tascam, Yamaha, Euphonix) we now live in a world of A/D converters and PCM algorithms to add to the mix (if you're a Pro Tools user you still "need" a console ... JK)!

My advice: find something you like that's within your budget right now (take your favorite CD of Wheezer, Coldplay or whatever and test), listen to what others have mixed (not mp3's or iTunes crap, get the real CD's) in the genre your aiming for on your new speakers and try to emulate the balance and EQ on your new speakers (with your music). Don't expect to get it right/perfect the 1'st, 2nd, or even 3rd time. You are learning to "paint" with sound which is a process that starts from the first recorded note (maybe you need to change the mic placement, rent a Yamaha C7, or get an Ovation to match the sound...) Speaking of which, microphone use is half the battle to achieving great sounding mixes. Oh yeah, and listen, Listen, LISTEN to everything! We perceive 3 dimensions with our 2 dimensional ears (not to mention that we feel the Low Freq with our entire body), your job, should you decide to accept it, is to make an impact on the auditory sense(SP)! Please don't hurt yourself...

Good luck,

John Tomlinson
Logic Studio Master Trainer
Apple Certified Final Cut Trainer
Adobe Certified Instructor

P.S. notice I didn't mention M-Audio, Mackie, Fostex, or ...

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, "Tim McLane" <timmclane@...> wrote:
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> Just one little caution about the mixing-on-small-speakers/headphones issue: if you don't check your mix on big speakers (and there are some other conditions as well), you may run the risk of getting too much bass on your mix --- which you'll only hear on systems that have bigger speakers.  It could be very embarrassing if you do a mix that sounds great on Auratones (for example) or on headphones and then on a system that has woofers of some kind, you suddenly hear some huge bass sound covering up the rest of your mix.
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>   To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:10 PM
>   Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Speaker Monitors / Mixing Tips Primer (from Man Parrish)
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>   Good thread and all great advice. As another recommendation for well priced monitors I've been using the Wharfedale Pro Diamond 8.2 actives for a few years now. They're remarkably cheap even here in Australia but I find them more revealing, "colder", and less flattering than my Dynaudio BM6's which are a great deal more expensive. I know they are the dirty little secret of more than a couple of mastering engineers. Be interested to know if anyone else here uses them. And one more possibility are the Avantone Mixcubes which are designed to replace the old Aurotone 'snotblocks'. If you can get a your mix sounding alright on these it should translate to just about anything, and given most people listen on crap gear now that's a plus. Don't think you need to spend 400 pounds, just listen to some well built ones and then spend some months getting used to them. 
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