Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:15 AM, HKC wrote:
>  so you'd be hard pressed to find a more
> difficult task if that's your goal.

Well thank you, Debbie Downer!

> I doubt that EQ will do it if you don't like the actual sound of  
> your voice

But seriously, I am curious that the only response that mentioned EQ  
was this one.  I am in a similar situation to Andy's and have been  
focusing mainly on EQ to get that contemporary pop vocals sound.   
Maybe Andy and I have very different goals for our voices, as I have  
a very big voice that does well in barbershop and broadway style  
music, but doesn't play well in pop (forget rock!).  But  
descriptively, I would use similar terminology ("thin") to contrast  
my voice with what I want.

Pardon my geekdom here, but an example would be the singing in the TV  
show Glee.  It's really striking how much processing is involved in  
the singing voices, and it sounds very jarring when they go from  
speaking right into singing, because the speaking sounds fairly  
natural and the singing sounds WAYYYYYYY Y processed.  But I don't  
know what processing is involved.  While the girls mostly have  
exceptional voices, the guys seem to have fairly mediocre singing  
voices, but the processing makes them sound very fat, compressed and  
"in your face".   So my thinking is - Hey!  I have a mediocre singing  
voice!  Maybe I could sound like that too!

Here's a cut up 24-second audio example of the transition from  
speaking to singing that I find so jarring in the show.

http://brokenpick.net/myfiles_files/Mattress.mp3

What is it that is being done to the singing that is so noticeable?   
The closest I've come to involves two layers of compression and  
channel EQ with Low cut at 240 and High shelf at 2800, and pitch  
correction.  When I run a match EQ on my voice using boyband vocals  
as a source, it sounds horrid and is just a massive high frequency  
gain and low frequency dropoff.  Duane mentioned utilizing the  
proximity effect, which sounds on the money, and I have not tried  
that yet.

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, but I find it very interesting,  
and have been meaning to seek advice for some time now, so any  
discussion would be greatly appreciated.

Gregory




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