By the way, guys, I don't know where you are but in LA, you can rent a Neumann U47, tube, vintage (just like mine) for about 100. for a day--- maybe even less. Along with that, I recommend a Neve 3 band EQ for about 40-80/day. They key is: how much do you want to invest in the singer? It makes a huge difference --- if they can sing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Currington" <steve@...> To: <Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals? >I agree with most if not all Tim has said.. > > If you don't own or wanna want to rent a good (read expensive) mic there > is often a lower cost option that gives great results. But mic choice > always depends on the voice and sometimes one mic works better than others > and sometimes you get surprised by the one that is the best so I suggest > experiment a little with mics. > > Check Sessionswithslau.com. Slau did a few experiments with some > interesting and low cost mics that are fab for vocals. > His podcast and write up on the "The Fetish Stiletto" subject is also very > interesting. > Slau also did a shoot out for a guy using some mic and presented the > shootout on a forum somewhere but I can't quickly locate it.. It proved > very interesting and the best mic for the particular person who requested > the test (I stress that it was for that guy's voice) was not the most > expensive. It was a blind shootout and the forum guy's were really > surprised at the mic they found to be best for that particular persons > voice. > > Re vocal improvement.. If you have a good mens barbershop group in your > area you can't go far wrong with joining them for a while.. They teach & > practice great technique. Barbershop/acappella style may not be your > thing but I can assure you good technique and the skills they use is > always transferable to any type of singing you do. I sang barbershop for > a while and have never ever regretted it because they taught me so much > about good singing practice and vocal technique. > > Steve > > > On 18/12/2009, at 12:45 PM, Tim McLane wrote: > >> I've done lots and lots of vocals and here are some tips:RECORDING: >> 1-When you record use a good mike--- it's worth it --- depending upon the >> project and depending upon the singer and depending upon what kinds of >> problems the singer has--- to rent one, such as a Neumann U-47 tube >> vintage or some others. This and a few other things SOMETIMES can work >> wonders. 2-Use (rent if you can't buy one) a good pre-amp, such as a 3 >> band EQ NEVE or some other; it will give body to the vocal and make it >> sound "expensive" 3-Use a bit of compression when you record the vocal >> and when you mix it use a little more--- this will make the singer sound >> like they have much more control than they do. DEVELOPMENT: A few lessons >> from a vocal coach that really knows what they are doing can cause >> miraculous changes --- if you live in or near the Los Angeles metro area, >> I recommend Seth Riggs or one of his authorized students. 2-Failing that, >> get his book and do the exercises. One of the exercises, which is >> basically to sing the first five notes of any scale up and down (ZB C, D, >> E, F, G, F, E, D, C and then to slur up from the I to the V and back to >> the I , ie, C slur up to G and then slur back), then do the same thing >> down 1/2 step, (ie, the first 5 notes of the B scale, etc. using the same >> form as the C scale), and so on until you have reached the lowest note >> that you are able to sing comfortably. When you have reached the lowest, >> you go up in this same way until you reach the highest note you can >> comfortably sing--- This exercise, if done daily, I have seen to work >> wonders, too. >> >> Those are some basics which I have seen help alot. >> >> However, seeing Seth is truly an experience because he knows the voice so >> well and deals with such things and proper centering and focus, tone >> quality and a load of other things, too numerous to mention. >> >> t >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Andy Brook >> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:05 AM >> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals? >> >> I've been practicing my singing for a few weeks now because I'd love >> to be able to do my own vocals, if only backing vocals. As with many >> male vocalists I sing slightly flat, but my intervals are fine (i.e. >> if I lift the pitch throughout slightly, it all comes back true to >> pitch) but I have a bit of a thin voice that sounds more boyband than >> male soloist. I read the tips of EQing and I've been messing around >> with reverb, chorus, ensemble and delay which enhance the sounds >> somewhat, although of course it then starts to sound muddy or processed. >> >> Does anyone have any secret tips to share on how you make singers >> sound as if they have a fuller voice? >> >> By the way, if anyone reading is a novice like me and feels shy to ask >> simple questions then please do so, as I would love to give answers as >> well as just asking questions! And I really do appreciate those who >> take the time to reply! >> >> Andy >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals?
2009-12-25 by Tim McLane