Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

This was a message from Greg on a similar topic to the current one on  
delay and reverb in vocals, and I was wondering if you ever found out  
how to produce the sound that is made in Glee? (By the way, I had no  
idea what Glee was when you posted. Since then its been a big hit in  
the UK)

Andy Brook

On 18 Dec 2009, at 23:09, Gregory Anderson wrote:

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> On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:15 AM, HKC wrote:
> > so you'd be hard pressed to find a more
> > difficult task if that's your goal.
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> Well thank you, Debbie Downer!
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> > I doubt that EQ will do it if you don't like the actual sound of
> > your voice
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> But seriously, I am curious that the only response that mentioned EQ
> was this one. I am in a similar situation to Andy's and have been
> focusing mainly on EQ to get that contemporary pop vocals sound.
> Maybe Andy and I have very different goals for our voices, as I have
> a very big voice that does well in barbershop and broadway style
> music, but doesn't play well in pop (forget rock!). But
> descriptively, I would use similar terminology ("thin") to contrast
> my voice with what I want.
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> Pardon my geekdom here, but an example would be the singing in the TV
> show Glee. It's really striking how much processing is involved in
> the singing voices, and it sounds very jarring when they go from
> speaking right into singing, because the speaking sounds fairly
> natural and the singing sounds WAYYYYYYY Y processed. But I don't
> know what processing is involved. While the girls mostly have
> exceptional voices, the guys seem to have fairly mediocre singing
> voices, but the processing makes them sound very fat, compressed and
> "in your face". So my thinking is - Hey! I have a mediocre singing
> voice! Maybe I could sound like that too!
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> Here's a cut up 24-second audio example of the transition from
> speaking to singing that I find so jarring in the show.
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> http://brokenpick.net/myfiles_files/Mattress.mp3
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> What is it that is being done to the singing that is so noticeable?
> The closest I've come to involves two layers of compression and
> channel EQ with Low cut at 240 and High shelf at 2800, and pitch
> correction. When I run a match EQ on my voice using boyband vocals
> as a source, it sounds horrid and is just a massive high frequency
> gain and low frequency dropoff. Duane mentioned utilizing the
> proximity effect, which sounds on the money, and I have not tried
> that yet.
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> Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, but I find it very interesting,
> and have been meaning to seek advice for some time now, so any
> discussion would be greatly appreciated.
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> Gregory
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