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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals?

2010-09-15 by GAmoore@aol.com

I think its worth it to have one good mic and one good preamp - which 
you can run mics, synthes, and basses through. The Neve design is not 
copyrighted, so there are a bunch of copies - from the Great River to 
the Chameleon to the Brent Averil copies. The chameleons are made in 
China and pretty cheap. You can also get those little "six pack" units. 
There are also some kits to build your own Neve or API copy if you can 
use a solder gun. I forgot the name of that outfit, but they have a 
bunch of kits for you to build your own preamp based on famous designs.

My experience with mics - and I not an expert at all - but they good 
mics seem to sound natural, creamy, smooth. The cheaper mics sound 
artificial, harsh, fake, etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim McLane <timmclane@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals?

In my experience, once you have decided upon the style of the project
and capabilities and potential of the singer, then the right mic, pre-
amp, compressor take the next highest priority.  Years ago when I
first started producing, I searched for ways to get good vocal sounds.
I was lead to buy a Neumann U-47 tube vintage and my life has been
different ever since.  Even when I was producing rap, for which a
little SM-56 or 57 would be fine, the rappers still loved the U47
because it allows you to hear all kinds throat noise (is my theory)
that is simply not available on most other mics.  When it is a big
project, then I'll go out and rent a Neve 3 band EQ (the classic for
giving low-end warmth, and I usually get them from audio rental places
here in LA for between 40 and 80/day) but the rest of the time, just a
cheap pre-amp  (my Firestudio preamps sound OK, or my Jo-Meek VC3) and
it still sounds great.  Here is a track recently did for a client.  I
think it sounds just fine...your thoughts?

https://www.box.net/shared/static/j8ayc0mbra.mp3

t




On Sep 14, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Andy Brook wrote:

> Thanks for all the tips on recording vocals. You are lucky to be able
> to road test the mics and take them back if they aren't right - here
> in the UK the shop would not be allowed to sell them as new after that
> and I'm not sure I would spend a lot of money on something that had
> been opened before, personally. Mind you, I am not about to spend that
> sort of money on a mic or preamp, so I'll be stumbling around trying
> to get a kookie unique sound from my cheapo gear, like lots of us.
>
> I came across this in a web newsletter called popbitch: Rihanna's
> Umbrella uses a Logic sample
>
> http://www.popbitch.com/home/2010/09/09/fruit-loops/
>
> How cool is that? Certainly shows that you don't need to spend a lot
> of money to make a world wide smash, even if it does help....
>
> Andy B
>
>

Tim McLane
www.timmclanemusic.com






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