Check out the Golden Age PRE-73 (Neve 1073 clone). (http://www.zenproaudio.com/goldenagepre-73.aspx) These are pretty good and an excellent price point And they offer some mods tat might also interest you. S. On 15/09/2010, at 5:44 PM, GAmoore@... wrote: > I think its worth it to have one good mic and one good preamp - which > you can run mics, synthes, and basses through. The Neve design is not > copyrighted, so there are a bunch of copies - from the Great River to > the Chameleon to the Brent Averil copies. The chameleons are made in > China and pretty cheap. You can also get those little "six pack" units. > There are also some kits to build your own Neve or API copy if you can > use a solder gun. I forgot the name of that outfit, but they have a > bunch of kits for you to build your own preamp based on famous designs. > > My experience with mics - and I not an expert at all - but they good > mics seem to sound natural, creamy, smooth. The cheaper mics sound > artificial, harsh, fake, etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim McLane <timmclane@...> > To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:43 pm > Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals? > > In my experience, once you have decided upon the style of the project > and capabilities and potential of the singer, then the right mic, pre- > amp, compressor take the next highest priority. Years ago when I > first started producing, I searched for ways to get good vocal sounds. > I was lead to buy a Neumann U-47 tube vintage and my life has been > different ever since. Even when I was producing rap, for which a > little SM-56 or 57 would be fine, the rappers still loved the U47 > because it allows you to hear all kinds throat noise (is my theory) > that is simply not available on most other mics. When it is a big > project, then I'll go out and rent a Neve 3 band EQ (the classic for > giving low-end warmth, and I usually get them from audio rental places > here in LA for between 40 and 80/day) but the rest of the time, just a > cheap pre-amp (my Firestudio preamps sound OK, or my Jo-Meek VC3) and > it still sounds great. Here is a track recently did for a client. I > think it sounds just fine...your thoughts? > > https://www.box.net/shared/static/j8ayc0mbra.mp3 > > t > > On Sep 14, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Andy Brook wrote: > > > Thanks for all the tips on recording vocals. You are lucky to be able > > to road test the mics and take them back if they aren't right - here > > in the UK the shop would not be allowed to sell them as new after that > > and I'm not sure I would spend a lot of money on something that had > > been opened before, personally. Mind you, I am not about to spend that > > sort of money on a mic or preamp, so I'll be stumbling around trying > > to get a kookie unique sound from my cheapo gear, like lots of us. > > > > I came across this in a web newsletter called popbitch: Rihanna's > > Umbrella uses a Logic sample > > > > http://www.popbitch.com/home/2010/09/09/fruit-loops/ > > > > How cool is that? Certainly shows that you don't need to spend a lot > > of money to make a world wide smash, even if it does help.... > > > > Andy B > > > > > > Tim McLane > www.timmclanemusic.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Tips for improving vocals?
2010-09-15 by Steve Currington
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