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Audio/MIDI stretching

Audio/MIDI stretching

2006-11-18 by pete_buchwald

Hey guys,

     Great discussion here, I've been following the audio quantizing topic with interest.  And 
the topic of percussion not syncing when transferred from DP to Logic.  Good discussion!

      A few things here.  First, and foremost, I did a project recently where my session tempo 
was 120 (default) and a piano player played along with the audio tracks playing at the 
percieved 155 bpm.  So .... the midi she played into logic I wanted to quantize (badly).  But if 
you change the tempo in the song, the audio doesn't change lengths, but the midi region 
does.  Any way to bypass that and have the length stay the same?   I ended up bouncing the 
midi to an external sequencer (ensoniq asr-10) and then recording it back to Logic at the 
correct tempo.  There has to be an easier way!

      And with Audio .... I've noticed that when I change the tempo sometimes regions of 
audio, will adjust with it.  Only about one track.  I've tried making sure nothing is selected 
(track or audio segments).  It's really screwed up some of my edits.  I just wanted all the 
audio to sit where it was.

      Thanks,

              Pete

Re: Audio/MIDI stretching

2006-12-05 by Keith Hess

Apple just posted a tip on their website that might address your first
problem:
http://www.apple.com/pro/techniques/logicchangetime/

Basically, it's about how to timestretch a midi sequence.

--- In Logic_Cafe@...m, "pete_buchwald" <pete_buchwald@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> 
>      Great discussion here, I've been following the audio quantizing
topic with interest.  And 
> the topic of percussion not syncing when transferred from DP to
Logic.  Good discussion!
> 
>       A few things here.  First, and foremost, I did a project
recently where my session tempo 
> was 120 (default) and a piano player played along with the audio
tracks playing at the 
> percieved 155 bpm.  So .... the midi she played into logic I wanted
to quantize (badly).  But if 
> you change the tempo in the song, the audio doesn't change lengths,
but the midi region 
> does.  Any way to bypass that and have the length stay the same?   I
ended up bouncing the 
> midi to an external sequencer (ensoniq asr-10) and then recording it
back to Logic at the 
> correct tempo.  There has to be an easier way!
> 
>       And with Audio .... I've noticed that when I change the tempo
sometimes regions of 
> audio, will adjust with it.  Only about one track.  I've tried
making sure nothing is selected 
> (track or audio segments).  It's really screwed up some of my edits.
 I just wanted all the 
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> audio to sit where it was.
> 
>       Thanks,
> 
>               Pete
>

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Audio/MIDI stretching

2006-12-05 by GAmoore@aol.com

Thats a great resource to bookmark : 
http://www.apple.com/pro/techniques/

The option drag on midi has been there a long time. However, I find it a 
little erratic when its not exactly double time or half time. Maybe my 
imagination.


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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Audio/MIDI stretching

2006-12-06 by klapton

I haven't used it myself.  But maybe check that quantization is off.

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> imagination.
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RE: Re: Audio/MIDI stretching

2006-12-09 by pete_buchwald

Thanks for the tip guys!   I would have never found that on my own!  I'll give that a try with 
my session and report back.

I probably mentioned it, but I had to bounce it to an external sequencer, then change the 
tempo in Logic and record it back in in real time.

Sincerely,

     Pete


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
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>
> Thats a great resource to bookmark : 
> http://www.apple.com/pro/techniques/
> 
> The option drag on midi has been there a long time. However, I find it a 
> little erratic when its not exactly double time or half time. Maybe my 
> imagination.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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