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question about patch layering

question about patch layering

2009-01-26 by Lucas, Bryan

I'm rather new to Logic and I have not played with MainStage, just the multitrack/mixer portion of Logic.  If I want to have use the Yamaha Piano sound, I create a new software instrument and load it into that track.  If I want a Wurlitzer, I build another track. 

I have a live gig approaching and I'm realizing I can't be switching from track to track (i.e. use the mouse) during an individual song to get different sounds.  In the past w/o Logic and just using the keyboards built-in patches, I'd layer the patches so they could quickly be turned on/off with a single button on the keyboard itself.  The other option was to split the keyboard and say put an Alto Sax on the top octave that I might not be using for that song anyways.  I could of course do that again, but I love the patch library and effects in Logic.

In Logic, what's the best way to layer sounds or split the keyboard?  Should I be doing this sort of thing in MainStage?  Any other suggestions?  (I have a Roland A90 controller)

Thanks,
Bryan Lucas

Re: [Logic_Cafe] question about patch layering

2009-01-26 by GAmoore@aol.com

thats what mainstage was designed for. you can do splits using the environment window - and cabling together a splitter, and so forth. it might take a little work, and you might be able to find a sample already - maybe on Len Sasso's swiftkick page. you can also layer a single EXS24 instrument to have different samples in different regions.
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I'm rather new to Logic and I have not played with MainStage, just the multitrack/mixer portion of Logic.  If I want to have use the Yamaha Piano sound, I create a new software instrument and load it into that track.  If I want a Wurlitzer, I build another track. 



I have a live gig approaching and I'm realizing I can't be switching from track to track (i.e. use the mouse) during an individual song to get different sounds.  In the past w/o Logic and just using the keyboards built-in patches, I'd layer the patches so they could quickly be turned on/off with a single button on the keyboard itself.  The other option was to split the keyboard and say put an Alto Sax on the top octave that I might not be using for that song anyways.  I could of course do that again, but I love the patch library and effects in Logic.



In Logic, what's the be
st way to layer sounds or split the keyboard?  Should I be doing this sort of thing in MainStage?  Any other suggestions?  (I have a Roland A90 controller)



Thanks,

Bryan Lucas



    
  

    
    
    
    
    
    


    


    
    
    
    
    



 





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Mainstage - was RE: [Logic_Cafe] question about patch layering

2009-02-16 by Lucas, Bryan

I just wanted to followup on this a bit.  I read through the Mainstage manual over the weekend and tried it out and it is EXACTLY what I'm looking for.   If you're new to Logic and have been wondering how you were going to use it live, like I was, you've got to look at Mainstage.  If you are a keyboard player and wonder what Mainstage can do for you, here are some of the things I found helpful:

1) layer sounds (unlimited up to your CPU ability)
2) split keyboard
3) quickly transpose/tune to a different key
4) has a built in analog tuner for guitar/bass, etc
5) put software instruments or audio instruments on a channel.  Combine the two.  I.e. play your guitar with software instrument patches
6) map your keyboards physical controls (wheel, bender stick, pedals) to computer actions
7) save all of your custom sounds/patches into a different 'slot' so you can quickly switch between them between songs.

The only downside I found is it needs a lot of CPU/RAM.  I'm on a 2.4 MBP with 2GB and it was struggling once I layered more than a 3-4 patches, particularly if there were long sustained sounds like strings.

Bryan Lucas
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thats what mainstage was designed for. you can do splits using the environment window - and cabling together a splitter, and so forth. it might take a little work, and you might be able to find a sample already - maybe on Len Sasso's swiftkick page. you can also layer a single EXS24 instrument to have different samples in different regions.

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Subject: [Logic_Cafe] question about patch layering

I'm rather new to Logic and I have not played with MainStage, just the multitrack/mixer portion of Logic. If I want to have use the Yamaha Piano sound, I create a new software instrument and load it into that track. If I want a Wurlitzer, I build another track.

I have a live gig approaching and I'm realizing I can't be switching from track to track (i.e. use the mouse) during an individual song to get different sounds. In the past w/o Logic and just using the keyboards built-in patches, I'd layer the patches so they could quickly be turned on/off with a single button on the keyboard itself. The other option was to split the keyboard and say put an Alto Sax on the top octave that I might not be using for that song anyways. I could of course do that again, but I love the patch library and effects in Logic.

In Logic, what's the be
st way to layer sounds or split the keyboard? Should I be doing this sort of thing in MainStage? Any other suggestions? (I have a Roland A90 controller)

Thanks,

Bryan Lucas

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