Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

>  I was a local
>store tonight and saw some of the Apple optical mice that I paid $59 now
>going for $29, and also $29 for the apple large keyboard.

You'd have to pay me more than $29 to use that POS keyboard. :)

And hey, what happened to that cheap Firewire interface?

NAMM? :)
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Nick Batzdorf
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>  > You'd have to pay me more than $29 to use that POS keyboard. :)

From: GAmoore@...

>I think it has one advantage ... in os X... I lost the use of a few function
>keys because the OS makes them speaker volume incr/dec. I think this keyboard
>has separate keys for some of those functions.

The problem is that it's impossible to type on because the feel is so poor.

>  Also, I have been using an old
>serial keyboard (from a 1990 mac IIfx... but its big and rock solid with room
>for template with keycommands ).. through a conversion device from USB

I used Extended Keyboard IIs through a Griffin adapter until I got a 
KVM switch that wants real USB in its keyboard input (IOGear 4-port 
Miniview). The MacAlley iKey is 99% as good, so I use those now.

>and I
>am thinking that the fewer gizmos, the better in terms of stability.

Keyboards are all stable.

>It also
>takes up less desk space, and it was nicer than the $100 "better 
>keyboard" sold
>by a third party. But I have yet to find a really great keyboard.

The Extended Keyboard II is the best keyboard for typing on, in my 
opinion. I think it qualifies as great. Remember, it sold for $150. 
There was a smaller Apple keyboard that felt just as good, but it 
didn't have as many buttons.

I have about 10 keyboards and various mice in my garage in all shapes 
and sizes, but I only use one. It's ridiculous.
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Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

On Jan 12, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Nick Batzdorf wrote:

>
>>  I was a local
>> store tonight and saw some of the Apple optical mice that I paid $59 
>> now
>> going for $29, and also $29 for the apple large keyboard.
>
> You'd have to pay me more than $29 to use that POS keyboard. :)
>
> And hey, what happened to that cheap Firewire interface?
>
> NAMM? :)
> -- 
>
> Nick Batzdorf
> 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434
>

Gee, what's a good keyboard then? I've only used Apple ones after I 
couldn't get a couple of third party units to author selected key 
commands. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. Can you recommend a good one 
that's solid and accepts all the key commands?

Regards
Michael Telle

From: GAmoore@...

>What stores in LA stock those keyboards? Apple
>store and Fry's don't have that much. My favorite computer store is Tustin
>Microcenter, but they had only a few types.

The MacAlly iKey? I bought the two I have a Fry's, but you can find 
them all over the place. eBay is a good source for computer keyboards.

>  > I have about 10 keyboards and various mice in my garage in all shapes
>  > and sizes, but I only use one. It's ridiculous.
>
>Those will come hand when you start buying six packs of miniMacs. ;-)

If they were a short step closer to being MIDI Macs, we'd all buy them... :)
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Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

>  > You'd have to pay me more than $29 to use that POS keyboard. :)

From: Michael Telle <telle@...>

>Gee, what's a good keyboard then? I've only used Apple ones after I
>couldn't get a couple of third party units to author selected key
>commands. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. Can you recommend a good one
>that's solid and accepts all the key commands?

The reason I don't like the Apple Pro keyboard is that I type very 
fast and it causes me to make lots of mistakes. If you don't have 
that problem, it's not a problem. I should have qualified my dissing. 
Sorry.

I use a MacAlly iKey, but I'm not sure it has all those keys (volume 
up, etc.). But they're unimportant to me. I open the CD tray from an 
icon on the menu bar (I forget how to put it there, but it was 
simple), and the MOTU hardware I'm using doesn't have a volume 
control for system sound anyway.
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Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

On Jan 13, 2005, at 8:36 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote:

>
>>> You'd have to pay me more than $29 to use that POS keyboard. :)
>
> From: Michael Telle <telle@...>
>
>> Gee, what's a good keyboard then? I've only used Apple ones after I
>> couldn't get a couple of third party units to author selected key
>> commands. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. Can you recommend a good one
>> that's solid and accepts all the key commands?
>
> The reason I don't like the Apple Pro keyboard is that I type very
> fast and it causes me to make lots of mistakes. If you don't have
> that problem, it's not a problem. I should have qualified my dissing.
> Sorry.
>

Ok, cool. I certainly don't have the "typing too fast" problem so I 
guess I'm good to go.

Cheers
Michael Telle

GAmoore,
Have you tried LA Computer Company in Anaheim?  It's one of those 
places that just happens to have, in stock, that adaptor that no one 
else has heard of.  They have some good deals on new Macs too, like the 
free Applecare package I got on my G5 2X2.

http://www.lacomputercompany.com/

I don't work for them - Just a happy customer.

-Glenn

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On Jan 13, 2005, at 6:55 AM, Logic GAmoore@...  wrote:

What stores in LA stock those keyboards? Apple
store and Fry's don't have that much. My favorite computer store is 
Tustin

Hi Glenn,

Very cool website.  Thanks for the tip.

Charlie

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Rueger <ruegerama@s...> wrote:

> GAmoore,
> Have you tried LA Computer Company in Anaheim?  It's one of those 
> places that just happens to have, in stock, that adaptor that no one 
> else has heard of.  They have some good deals on new Macs too, like the 
> free Applecare package I got on my G5 2X2.
> 
> http://www.lacomputercompany.com/
> 
> I don't work for them - Just a happy customer.
>

NIck,
I wish you could remember this process as I replaced my keyboard , 
because of space restraints, with a mini hacker lite(It has no 10 key 
pad). I still have an Apple hangin on the USB port for ejecting disks.
Thanks!
Alan Hayes
901-276-6590
On Jan 13, 2005, at 5:11 PM, Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  I open the CD tray from an
icon on the menu bar (I forget how to put it there,
> Nick Batzdorf
> 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434