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Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???

2001-11-06 by dave barton

Hey Jeff,
       WWW.SUMMITRACING.COM is the web site ,they are the biggest 
aftermarket speedshop in the world.The springs are a direct 
replacement . The shocks might require you to find longer sleeves to 
go through the top and bottom bushings of the shock.The shocks I got 
had eyes on both ends(it was previously modified for racing) the rear 
shocks on your car probably have a stud on the bottom but I am sure 
you can get both styles.
                  Cheers Dave #5577 
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                  --- 
In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Thanks for the info!
> Do those guys have a website?
> Were the springs pretty much direct replacements, or did they 
require
> any mods to fit?
> How about the shocks?
>  
> Jeff Caraway 
> #8052 1984 V6 GT
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Nose in the air... snobbish car???
>  
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> > Hey Paul,
>         You are correct on the spring rates.......I actually just 
> purchased aluminum adjustable coil -over shocks and 2.5" dia.
> springs from summit racing in Ohio, they are "Hal" brand (good 
> quality).The cost usd. was $620.The shocks have about 3.5" of 
> adjustment.The part #'s if anybody is interested are.........
>      HAL-12-170 REAR SPRING
>      HAL-12-250 FRONT SPRING
>      HAL-ALN5855P-1 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE COIL-OVER SHOCKS
>                     Cheers Dave #5577   
>                                                                     
  
>                                                                     
  
>                                                                     
  
>                                                                   
> Jeff,
> >  
> > Dave Barton recently posted that the Spring rates for the metal 
> chassis cars
> > are 250 lbs front and 170 lbs rear. That sounds about right from 
> what I can
> > remember. 
> >  
> > Believe it or not, but I'm pretty sure I still have the original 
> packaging
> > for the Koni shocks, full of spare Volvo engine parts at home in 
> Aurora.
> > When I go home next weekend, I'll check to see if the model number 
> is
> > printed on the box or on the shocks themselves. Either way, I'll 
let 
> you
> > know next week. As I said, I got them through the Marcos Owners 
Club 
> for a
> > very reasonable price. I recall that Jem Marsh kicked up a major 
> fuss with
> > Koni because the club was undercutting his prices significantly, 
> basically
> > supplying them at cost. So Koni more or less doubled the price to 
> the club,
> > which continued to sell them until around the time that Rory 
McMath 
> started
> > Marcos Heritage Spares.  I don't recall exactly how much they cost 
> me
> > (though I can look it up on the weekend), but it was probably 15 
> years ago
> > and they weren't cheap. I shudder to think how much they'd be now. 
> >  
> > I only put around 2000 miles a year on the Marcos, and the shocks 
> are still
> > working fine. The previous Spax shocks wore out in only a few 
years.
> > However, I put leathercloth boots around the springs when I put 
the 
> Konis on
> > the car to prevent dust and grit from wearing the shafts, and it 
> seems to
> > have worked very well.
> >  
> > I looked through the latest Marcos Owners Club magazine last night 
> to see if
> > the shocks were listed in the spares section but they weren't. 
> However, as
> > an indication of Rory's mark-ups, the windshield that I bought 
> through the
> > club last year is listed at more than twice the price from Rory. 
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> > 
> > 
> > Huh, that sounds like a plan!
> > I will probably try and replace the springs as well, since they 
are 
> VERY
> > rusty.
> > Do you remember if the front and rear springs the same?
> > Also, do you remember what model of Koni shocks you got, and where 
> you got
> > them?
> >  
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:16 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> >  
> > Jeff,
> >  
> > I fit the Konis to replace the Spax originals on my car a 
> looooonnnngggg
> > time ago. I bought a new set of springs at the same time but they 
> were the
> > same size as the originals. They were available through the Marcos 
> Owners
> > Club in England for quite a reasonable price but alas, no more. I 
> understand
> > you can get them from Rory McMath at Marcos Heritage Spares though 
> you may
> > need to take out a second mortgage. 
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:09 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> > Hi Paul,
> > Thanks for replying!
> > What you are seeing is not an optical illusion, I assure you. The 
> front is
> > definitely higher than the back.
> > I think it was about an inch and half higher than the rear. I 
> measured from
> > the bottom of the black strip to the floor of my garage behind the 
> front
> > wheel and in front of the rear wheel.
> > I also measured the tire-to-wheel-arch distance to be off about 
the 
> same
> > amount.
> > Will the Konis fit in the coil springs on the front?
> > Right now it has Spax shocks.
> >  
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:54 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> >  
> > Jeff,
> >  
> > Looking at the driver's side photo of your car, it does appear 
that 
> the nose
> > is a little high. The black strip underneath the door should be 
> parallel to
> > the road surface and the gap above the wheels should be the same 
> front and
> > rear. Mind you, it could be an optical illusion, or, if the road 
> surface is
> > sloping, as appears to be the case, the weight could more on the 
> rear
> > causing the nose to lift. I would have expected the V6 engine to 
be 
> heavy
> > enough to compress the springs to required amount. Either way, the 
> easy way
> > to level the car is to fit Koni adjustable shocks, which allow you 
> to adjust
> > the height by a couple of inches. 
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> >  
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:44 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Nose in the air... snobbish car???
> > Hi All,
> > I have what seems a silly question, but after having other people 
> see my car
> > finally, one comment keeps popping up.
> > "Is the nose supposed to be that high"?
> > Now, I think I read somewhere that a Marcos GT is supposed to have 
a
> > somewhat high nose, but it does seem rather high up to me. And 
this 
> from an
> > outside perspective, not sunk in behind the wheel. Look at the 
> pictures in
> > the group photo section to see what I am talking about.
> > Does anyone else's car have the same characteristics? I think I 
saw 
> a yellow
> > car in the pictures of the California Marcos gathering that looked 
> as if it
> > did the same thing.
> > Could it be a spring thing since mine came over as a kit? Maybe 
mine 
> was
> > actually sprung for a heavier engine or something....
> > Anyone???.....
> >  
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Caraway
> > #8052 1984 V6 GT
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
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