Marcos Maniacs

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> OK,
> This Brochure labelled Paul Weidner in the Photo section has me
very 
puzzled!
> What is the time period on this thing????
> It appears to be a brochure from the well known MR. Bob Boston
since 
the address given is in GA and it mentions the cars being imported as 
kits. Does this mean that 200 cars were imported to the US?/ NA?
prior 
to Mr. Boston's operation?
> 
> That would actually make more sense to me as it seems that there
are 
way more 60/70s era cars out there than 80s era cars (which is when 
they were being imported as kits).
> 
> Help please......
> 
> 
> Jeff C

Hi Jeff,
I posted the brochure for Paul who hasn't joined us yet on this list.
 Paul said he would take time this weekend to join.  I really don't 
know any more about the brochure than that.  Perhaps when Paul joins 
us he can shed some light on your questions.  I also have some old 
brochures stashed away and I will dig those out and get them posted.
Eventually I would like to have all the information in my files in a 
format so anyone who is interested in something can download it to a 
hard copy.
What do you think of the new "site"
Mike Denman
1966 Marcos
Mike Denman

Hi all,

this is my first entry and of course, although a Marcos Maniac in 
one sense, I'm an eastpondsider. :^)

Anyway, I meant to reply to this when it was a discussion on the mail 
list. 

There were, indeed, a large number of 60s cars (actually early 70s) 
exported to the states. A major part of the collapse of Marcos in 
1972 was due to the fact they shipped a large consignment of cars to 
the US (The Volvo straight 6 was selected, in parallel with the Ford 
Essex V6, partly because it was already federalised). 

Under rules at the time, manufacturers producing less than (I can't 
remember the exact number) say a 1000 cars a year, could dodge 
certain type approval rules.

However, so the story goes, US Customs couldn't believe that a 
company producing so few cars in total could ship so many in one 
shipment and impounded the cars for months whilst they investigated. 
Part of the result of this was the lack of cash flow (no cars were, 
obviously, sold) and the company folded.

Therefore, it's safe to assume that most of the cars in the US were 
actually imported their for sale new, rather than being personal 
imports. Some obvious exceptions would be RHD cars and post 80s cars, 
which were never imported, officially, into the States.

I recall hearing a story at one point that part of the reason the 
Mantis used the Mustang engine was that it was federalised and there 
was some hope that, maybe, a deal could be struck with Ford to sell 
the cars in the US, through selected outlets. I don't know, however, 
how far this idea ever advanced and I certainly don't believe it ever 
happened.

Hope this helps.

Mark

PS Great idea, this site. I was just about to take myself off the e-
mail list as my web mail service couldn't cope with the volume! I'll 
post details of this service on my site.

WWW.MARCOSCARS.NET

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Mike Denman" <marcos18001966@y...> wrote:
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> > OK,
> > This Brochure labelled Paul Weidner in the Photo section has me
> very 
> puzzled!
> > What is the time period on this thing????
> > It appears to be a brochure from the well known MR. Bob Boston
> since 
> the address given is in GA and it mentions the cars being imported 
as 
> kits. Does this mean that 200 cars were imported to the US?/ NA?
> prior 
> to Mr. Boston's operation?
> > 
> > That would actually make more sense to me as it seems that there
> are 
> way more 60/70s era cars out there than 80s era cars (which is when 
> they were being imported as kits).
> > 
> > Help please......
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff C
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> I posted the brochure for Paul who hasn't joined us yet on this 
list.
>  Paul said he would take time this weekend to join.  I really don't 
> know any more about the brochure than that.  Perhaps when Paul 
joins 
> us he can shed some light on your questions.  I also have some old 
> brochures stashed away and I will dig those out and get them posted.
> Eventually I would like to have all the information in my files in 
a 
> format so anyone who is interested in something can download it to 
a 
> hard copy.
> What do you think of the new "site"
> Mike Denman
> 1966 Marcos
> Mike Denman

Hi all, 

Jeff, you are indeed correct. That is from Bob Boston.  In fact, I 
have a copy of the entire 4 page newletter (pictured is page 2).  It 
was called MARCOS MAGIC and was purported to be published 3 times 
yearly.  This particular issue was from 1983 and discusses the 
following:  1983 MARCOS w/ standard a/c, the purchase of 500 radiator 
cooling fans from the recently defunct DeLorean works, Brian Byrd as 
a new dealer in Austin, TX, shipping through Canada, stress crack 
repair, description of stage kits, and an available parts listing.

There is no mention of the number of North American cars imported.  
All that is said is "After all, Marcos built 2400 complete cars so we 
should know what we're doing."  I presume he is referring to all of 
the factory builds to that time.

Regards,
Tad

Hi Maniacs,
 I am probably responsible for "screwing" up this thread by putting my 
reply at the bottom when it started.  I believe that they should be at 
the top to read correctly.  Regardless, what I would like to add to 
this discussion goes beyond this particular brochure.  Tad mentions 
the brochure I posted that has tech tips on repairing stress cracks.  
This is a brochure that Tad also has although each of us, Tad and 
Myself, don't have a copy of Pauls brochure.  The point I am driving 
to is, lets get all of this stuff up on the site and see what we 
collectively have as a group.  It doesn't have to be pretty, just get 
it posted.  As I said in my email announcing the opening of the site, 
we are currently working on some additional things that are pretty 
exciting.  Eventually we will need access to all this material.  The 
first step is identifing exactly what we have and whatelse might exist 
"out there".  Mark Saxby, of the Unofficial Marcos Web site (the 
absolute,very best Marcos Website out there...link available under 
bookmarks on this site)has agreed to help us and has already posted 
his parts interchange list under "files" on this web site. I have 
gotten committments from several other sources to help us as well.  
The point is we need to "capture" all the information we have 
collectively and make it available to anyone and everyone who needs 
it. So I would like each of you to rummage through your old files and 
binders etc. and start posting the information that you have.  You can 
also email me directly with the information if that works for you.  We 
can "refine" the information later if need be, to put it into a useful 
format etc.  So let's all make a committment to post something new 
every day and see what we have. Don't worry too much about appearances 
at this point.... some items don't scan or photograph well.  If it is 
something that is useful, then we can always retype it or something. 
Contribute, do something.  Be part of the solution!

Thanks,
Mike Denman
1966 Marcos
Chassis #4079

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., gtcoastie@m... wrote:
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Mike Denman" <marcos18001966@y...> 
wrote:
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> > > OK,
> > > This Brochure labelled Paul Weidner in the Photo section has me
> > very 
> > puzzled!
> > > What is the time period on this thing????
> > > It appears to be a brochure from the well known MR. Bob Boston
> > since 
> > the address given is in GA and it mentions the cars being imported 
> as 
> > kits. Does this mean that 200 cars were imported to the US?/ NA?
> > prior 
> > to Mr. Boston's operation?
> > > 
> > > That would actually make more sense to me as it seems that there
> > are 
> > way more 60/70s era cars out there than 80s era cars (which is 
when 
> > they were being imported as kits).
> > > 
> > > Help please......
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jeff C
> > 
> > Hi Jeff,
> > I posted the brochure for Paul who hasn't joined us yet on this 
> list.
> >  Paul said he would take time this weekend to join.  I really 
don't 
> > know any more about the brochure than that.  Perhaps when Paul 
> joins 
> > us he can shed some light on your questions.  I also have some old 
> > brochures stashed away and I will dig those out and get them 
posted.
> > Eventually I would like to have all the information in my files in 
> a 
> > format so anyone who is interested in something can download it to 
> a 
> > hard copy.
> > What do you think of the new "site"
> > Mike Denman
> > 1966 Marcos
> > Mike Denman
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Jeff, you are indeed correct. That is from Bob Boston.  In fact, I 
> have a copy of the entire 4 page newletter (pictured is page 2).  It 
> was called MARCOS MAGIC and was purported to be published 3 times 
> yearly.  This particular issue was from 1983 and discusses the 
> following:  1983 MARCOS w/ standard a/c, the purchase of 500 
radiator 
> cooling fans from the recently defunct DeLorean works, Brian Byrd as 
> a new dealer in Austin, TX, shipping through Canada, stress crack 
> repair, description of stage kits, and an available parts listing.
> 
> There is no mention of the number of North American cars imported.  
> All that is said is "After all, Marcos built 2400 complete cars so 
we 

> should know what we're doing."  I presume he is referring to all of 
> the factory builds to that time.
> 
> Regards,
> Tad

Hello All,

I know most but probably not all have a copy of a copy of a copy of a 
wiring schematic. I had both a 4 and 6 that I got from Isabel Chivers 
or Tad. I was wondering if anyone had a clear enough copy to post. I 
sure do not and I imagine it would be of value. I understood the 
wires hooked up but I also had orphans under the dash and it is nice 
to know where they belong.

Ed Chester

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Mike Denman" <marcos18001966@y...> wrote:
> Hi Maniacs,
>  I am probably responsible for "screwing" up this thread by putting 
my 
> reply at the bottom when it started.  I believe that they should be 
at 
> the top to read correctly.  Regardless, what I would like to add to 
> this discussion goes beyond this particular brochure.  Tad mentions 
> the brochure I posted that has tech tips on repairing stress 
cracks.  
> This is a brochure that Tad also has although each of us, Tad and 
> Myself, don't have a copy of Pauls brochure.  The point I am 
driving 
> to is, lets get all of this stuff up on the site and see what we 
> collectively have as a group.  It doesn't have to be pretty, just 
get 
> it posted.  As I said in my email announcing the opening of the 
site, 
> we are currently working on some additional things that are pretty 
> exciting.  Eventually we will need access to all this material.  
The 
> first step is identifing exactly what we have and whatelse might 
exist 
> "out there".  Mark Saxby, of the Unofficial Marcos Web site (the 
> absolute,very best Marcos Website out there...link available under 
> bookmarks on this site)has agreed to help us and has already posted 
> his parts interchange list under "files" on this web site. I have 
> gotten committments from several other sources to help us as well.  
> The point is we need to "capture" all the information we have 
> collectively and make it available to anyone and everyone who needs 
> it. So I would like each of you to rummage through your old files 
and 
> binders etc. and start posting the information that you have.  You 
can 
> also email me directly with the information if that works for you.  
We 
> can "refine" the information later if need be, to put it into a 
useful 
> format etc.  So let's all make a committment to post something new 
> every day and see what we have. Don't worry too much about 
appearances 
> at this point.... some items don't scan or photograph well.  If it 
is 
> something that is useful, then we can always retype it or 
something. 
> Contribute, do something.  Be part of the solution!
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Denman
> 1966 Marcos
> Chassis #4079
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., gtcoastie@m... wrote:
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Mike Denman" <marcos18001966@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> 
wrote:
> > > > OK,
> > > > This Brochure labelled Paul Weidner in the Photo section has 
me
> > > very 
> > > puzzled!
> > > > What is the time period on this thing????
> > > > It appears to be a brochure from the well known MR. Bob Boston
> > > since 
> > > the address given is in GA and it mentions the cars being 
imported 
> > as 
> > > kits. Does this mean that 200 cars were imported to the US?/ NA?
> > > prior 
> > > to Mr. Boston's operation?
> > > > 
> > > > That would actually make more sense to me as it seems that 
there
> > > are 
> > > way more 60/70s era cars out there than 80s era cars (which is 
> when 
> > > they were being imported as kits).
> > > > 
> > > > Help please......
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Jeff C
> > > 
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > > I posted the brochure for Paul who hasn't joined us yet on this 
> > list.
> > >  Paul said he would take time this weekend to join.  I really 
> don't 
> > > know any more about the brochure than that.  Perhaps when Paul 
> > joins 
> > > us he can shed some light on your questions.  I also have some 
old 
> > > brochures stashed away and I will dig those out and get them 
> posted.
> > > Eventually I would like to have all the information in my files 
in 
> > a 
> > > format so anyone who is interested in something can download it 
to 
> > a 
> > > hard copy.
> > > What do you think of the new "site"
> > > Mike Denman
> > > 1966 Marcos
> > > Mike Denman
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > Jeff, you are indeed correct. That is from Bob Boston.  In fact, 
I 
> > have a copy of the entire 4 page newletter (pictured is page 2).  
It 
> > was called MARCOS MAGIC and was purported to be published 3 times 
> > yearly.  This particular issue was from 1983 and discusses the 
> > following:  1983 MARCOS w/ standard a/c, the purchase of 500 
> radiator 
> > cooling fans from the recently defunct DeLorean works, Brian Byrd 
as 
> > a new dealer in Austin, TX, shipping through Canada, stress crack 
> > repair, description of stage kits, and an available parts listing.
> > 
> > There is no mention of the number of North American cars 
imported.  
> > All that is said is "After all, Marcos built 2400 complete cars 
so 
> we 
> > should know what we're doing."  I presume he is referring to all 
of 

> > the factory builds to that time.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Tad