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2005-08-10 by Hampton Peterson
Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT- VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in- US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1 Regards, Hampton #5463
2005-08-11 by Dransfield, Paul
Hi everyone, The car on eBay is definitely a post 1980 model, most of which were V8s. The giveaway is the lack of bonnet clips, which were superseded by a cable-operated locking mechanism similar to a pair of hood releases, and the design of the front of the bonnet is definitely from a later model. If this car has a 4 cylinder engine, it was probably a kit, though the bulge on the bonnet was usually to accommodate a V6 or V8. The vendor obviously knows very little about the marque and may have registered it as a 1967 to get it into the country. It'll be interesting to see what it goes for. It's in such poor condition, I'd be surprised if it sells for more than a few thousand dollars. What a shame it was allowed to deteriorate so far. Regards, Paul Dransfield 3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message----- From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:29 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT- <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT-> VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in- US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1 Regards, Hampton #5463 _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "MarcosManiacs <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MarcosManiacs> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ ----------------------------------------- This e-mail message and any attachments contain confidential information from Medco. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that disclosure, printing, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this electronic information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply message and then delete the electronic message and any attachments.
2005-08-11 by Robert Carroll
I got an email response from him and he claims that it is a '67, but that he's done some fiberglass work to modernize it. He says it has a steel tube chassis also. Didn't these first become available in mid 1969? -Bob #5366
-----Original Message----- From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:29 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT- VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in- US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1 Regards, Hampton #5463 _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "MarcosManiacs <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MarcosManiacs> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____
2005-08-11 by Don Lattimer
----- Original Message -----From: Dransfield, PaulSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:26 AMSubject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBayHi everyone,
The car on eBay is definitely a post 1980 model, most of which were V8s. The giveaway is the lack of bonnet clips, which were superseded by a cable-operated locking mechanism similar to a pair of hood releases, and the design of the front of the bonnet is definitely from a later model. If this car has a 4 cylinder engine, it was probably a kit, though the bulge on the bonnet was usually to accommodate a V6 or V8. The vendor obviously knows very little about the marque and may have registered it as a 1967 to get it into the country.
It'll be interesting to see what it goes for. It's in such poor condition, I'd be surprised if it sells for more than a few thousand dollars. What a shame it was allowed to deteriorate so far.
Regards,
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message-----
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:29 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay
Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT-
VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in-
US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1
Regards,
Hampton
#5463
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2005-08-11 by Meggsief@aol.com
Paul,
Its very funny that you mentioned the bonnet. I was yelling at the
computer about all of the inconsistncies with this car and my wife even picked
out some stuff. When we opened your e-mail she was laughing because I was
complaining about the same things. Thanks for the back up because sometimes I get
funny looks from her when I am on e-bay.
Don,
Since this is probaly the only marcos in the states I think it would
be great if you could inspect the car. Also the British car conclave is comming
up in mid Sept. in Denver. It would be realy cool if anyone could show thier
car. Bill Black is the only member that I know of that is in the state.
Hal
5353/50062005-08-11 by Meggsief@aol.com
Bob,
I also emailed him I am waiting to see what the vin # is if he writes
back
Hal2005-08-11 by Don Lattimer
<With this engine, even in standard form, the Mantula could accelerate from 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds and the improved aerodynamics allowed speeds of around 140 mph to be reached. The Rover engine also came with a slick 5 speed gearbox to complete the picture.
The Mantula is arguably the most desirable Marcos for day to day use, especially a version with the Granada based independent rear suspension. The bodywork is little changed from the original Adams design of 1963 and the Rover engine is a delightful unit.
The Martina looks, to all the world, just like a Mantula with slightly flared front wheel arches, but lifting the bonnet reveals the 'raison d'etre' of this car. The Martina was intended to bring Marcos ownership to those who could never afford it (The Marcos has never been a cheap car - in the 60's they were dearer than E-Types) and allowed the classic shape to be built around Ford Cortina mechanics (the flared arches accomodating the wider steering rack of the Cortina). Many Marcos owners viewed these cars with disdain, but having driven a beautifully built version with a tuned 2 litre Ford OHC engine, I'd say that there's little to choose between one and, say a V6 GT (except for the sound, the V6 is lovely) and, with humble Ford mechanics, insuring and running one can be a lot more affordable than a Mantula. The Martina was available as an alternative to the Mantula, which continued to be built.
However, despite selling well, the Martina's lifespan was short, as in 1993 the factory made the momentous decision to abandon 'component cars' (Jem claims kit cars are Duttons built on clapped out Escorts) and move into direct competition with the likes of TVR and Porsche by building and selling only fully built, type-approved cars.
The result is the Mantara. Once again the Rover V8 engine was used, this time in 3.9 form (although the current range includes a 5 litre Rover V8!), but strut suspension forced Dennis Adams to add Audi Quattro-like blisters to the front wings, which, in my opinion, sadly don't blend in well with the original shape.
However, the Marcos continues to impress reviewers, especially with its handling and refinement (one daring to say that he felt the Mantara handles better than TVRs latest offerings), and its a source of amusement amongst Marcos owners that journalists still marvel at the adjustable pedals!
With substantial financial backing and a successful race program, Marcos cars continue to sell well.
From 1986, the Mantula was available in Spyder form and this was carried on through the Martina and Mantara models and into the LMs.>>
Excerpt from Mark Saxby's site.
Don
#3M5759
----- Original Message -----From: Robert CarrollSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:04 AMSubject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBayI got an email response from him and he claims that it is a 67, but that hes done some fiberglass work to modernize it. He says it has a steel tube chassis also. Didnt these first become available in mid 1969?
-Bob
#5366
-----Original Message-----
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:29 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay
Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT-
VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in-
US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1
Regards,
Hampton
#5463
2005-08-11 by Christian Fey
This Marcos is definately not a 67 car. It is a Mantula body from 84 onwards. Rear lights, bonnet, mirrors, front-spoiler, rear windscreen (no rond edges, in this time the rear windscreens were glued to the chassis), the doors, and the revolution rims (Modern line from Schmidt factory and not the original Revolution "Classic"). These rims were sold end of the 80´s. The engine and gearbox indicates that this car is a Kit. I don´t know any other Marcos with a Fiat Mirafiori engine & and Fiat gearbox. This certainly was never fitted in Marcos by the factory. I know a Marcos GT with Lotus engine, 2 with Alfa Romeo engine & gearbox (GT & a Martina), some with BMW engine & gearbox (GT with 2002 tii, Mantula with M5 engine & gearbox, Mantis with V8 and someone told me that in UK is under construction a Mantula with a V12 unit), beside all the Volvo, Ford & Rover engines. I believe this Mantula Kit got a "old" chassis number to pass the import regulations. CF Mantula --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...> wrote: > Yep, steel chassis started in 1969. All Martinas were kit cars. They were supposedly for the "poorer" folk who desired a Marcos. > > <<Launched in 1984, the Mantula was very similar to the GT of 1969, but subtle bodywork modifications hid the most significant change; the addition of the powerful, light and highly tunable Rover (nee Buick) V8. > > With this engine, even in standard form, the Mantula could accelerate from 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds and the improved aerodynamics allowed speeds of around 140 mph to be reached. The Rover engine also came with a slick 5 speed gearbox to complete the picture. > > The Mantula is arguably the most desirable Marcos for day to day use, especially a version with the Granada based independent rear suspension. The bodywork is little changed from the original Adams design of 1963 and the Rover engine is a delightful unit. > > The Martina looks, to all the world, just like a Mantula with slightly flared front wheel arches, but lifting the bonnet reveals the 'raison d'etre' of this car. The Martina was intended to bring Marcos ownership to those who could never afford it (The Marcos has never been a cheap car - in the 60's they were dearer than E-Types) and allowed the classic shape to be built around Ford Cortina mechanics (the flared arches accomodating the wider steering rack of the Cortina). Many Marcos owners viewed these cars with disdain, but having driven a beautifully built version with a tuned 2 litre Ford OHC engine, I'd say that there's little to choose between one and, say a V6 GT (except for the sound, the V6 is lovely) and, with humble Ford mechanics, insuring and running one can be a lot more affordable than a Mantula. The Martina was available as an alternative to the Mantula, which continued to be built. > > However, despite selling well, the Martina's lifespan was short, as in 1993 the factory made the momentous decision to abandon 'component cars' (Jem claims kit cars are Duttons built on clapped out Escorts) and move into direct competition with the likes of TVR and Porsche by building and selling only fully built, type-approved cars. > > The result is the Mantara. Once again the Rover V8 engine was used, this time in 3.9 form (although the current range includes a 5 litre Rover V8!), but strut suspension forced Dennis Adams to add Audi Quattro-like blisters to the front wings, which, in my opinion, sadly don't blend in well with the original shape. > > However, the Marcos continues to impress reviewers, especially with its handling and refinement (one daring to say that he felt the Mantara handles better than TVRs latest offerings), and its a source of amusement amongst Marcos owners that journalists still marvel at the adjustable pedals! > > With substantial financial backing and a successful race program, Marcos cars continue to sell well. > > From 1986, the Mantula was available in Spyder form and this was carried on through the Martina and Mantara models and into the LMs.>> > > Excerpt from Mark Saxby's site. > > Don > > #3M5759 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Carroll > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:04 AM > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay > > > I got an email response from him and he claims that it is a '67, but that he's done some fiberglass work to modernize it. He says it has a steel tube chassis also. Didn't these first become available in mid 1969? > > > > -Bob > > #5366 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:29 PM > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay > > > > Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so..... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos- GT- > VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in- > US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1 > > Regards, > Hampton > #5463 > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "MarcosManiacs" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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2005-08-11 by larry meadows
Paul,Its very funny that you mentioned the bonnet. I was yelling at the computer about all of the inconsistncies with this car and my wife even picked out some stuff. When we opened your e-mail she was laughing because I was complaining about the same things. Thanks for the back up because sometimes I get funny looks from her when I am on e-bay.Don,Since this is probaly the only marcos in the states I think it would be great if you could inspect the car. Also the British car conclave is comming up in mid Sept. in Denver. It would be realy cool if anyone could show thier car. Bill Black is the only member that I know of that is in the state.Hal5353/5006
2005-08-11 by Baufi-Fey@web.de
It is not a Martina. The Martina has the "Cortina" front axle unit and wider wheel arches are necassary. The Martina are mainly sold as Kit.
CF-Mantula
MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 11.08.05 21:36:51:
<With this engine, even in standard form, the Mantula could accelerate from 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds and the improved aerodynamics allowed speeds of around 140 mph to be reached. The Rover engine also came with a slick 5 speed gearbox to complete the picture.
The Mantula is arguably the most desirable Marcos for day to day use, especially a version with the Granada based independent rear suspension. The bodywork is little changed from the original Adams design of 1963 and the Rover engine is a delightful unit.
The Martina looks, to all the world, just like a Mantula with slightly flared front wheel arches, but lifting the bonnet reveals the 'raison d'etre' of this car. The Martina was intended to bring Marcos ownership to those who could never afford it (The Marcos has never been a cheap car - in the 60's they were dearer than E-Types) and allowed the classic shape to be built around Ford Cortina mechanics (the flared arches accomodating the wider steering rack of the Cortina). Many Marcos owners viewed these cars with disdain, but having driven a beautifully built version with a tuned 2 litre Ford OHC engine, I'd say that there's little to choose between one and, say a V6 GT (except for the sound, the V6 is lovely) and, with humble Ford mechanics, insuring and running one can be a lot more affordable than a Mantula. The Martina was available as an alternative to the Mantula, which continued to be built.
However, despite selling well, the Martina's lifespan was short, as in 1993 the factory made the momentous decision to abandon 'component cars' (Jem claims kit cars are Duttons built on clapped out Escorts) and move into direct competition with the likes of TVR and Porsche by building and selling only fully built, type-approved cars.
The result is the Mantara. Once again the Rover V8 engine was used, this time in 3.9 form (although the current range includes a 5 litre Rover V8!), but strut suspension forced Dennis Adams to add Audi Quattro-like blisters to the front wings, which, in my opinion, sadly don't blend in well with the original shape.
However, the Marcos continues to impress reviewers, especially with its handling and refinement (one daring to say that he felt the Mantara handles better than TVRs latest offerings), and its a source of amusement amongst Marcos owners that journalists still marvel at the adjustable pedals!
With substantial financial backing and a successful race program, Marcos cars continue to sell well.
From 1986, the Mantula was available in Spyder form and this was carried on through the Martina and Mantara models and into the LMs.>>
Excerpt from Mark Saxby's site.
Don
#3M5759
----- Original Message -----From: Robert CarrollSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:04 AMSubject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBayI got an email response from him and he claims that it is a 67, but that hes done some fiberglass work to modernize it. He says it has a steel tube chassis also. Didnt these first become available in mid 1969?
-Bob
#5366
-----Original Message-----
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:29 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay
Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT-
VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in-
US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1
Regards,
Hampton
#5463
2005-08-11 by Robert Carroll
Hal, I was going to ask him the same thing. Keep us posted. -Bob
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:54 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
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Bob,
I also emailed him I am waiting to see what the vin # is if he
writes back
Hal
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_____2005-08-11 by Meggsief@aol.com
Larry,
The show is sat and sun the 17th and 18th. sat. is a gimmick
ralley,basically they pick a scenic twisty route through the mountains and then we
end up in some small town. The cool thing is that they have chase vehicles for
those of us that break down. Sun is the show. They have same day registration.
You also can go on line to www.coloradoconclave.com it would be great to have
another Marcos out there. I am hoping Bill Black fron co. springs will make it
this year. What city do you live in?
Hal2005-08-11 by larry meadows
Larry,The show is sat and sun the 17th and 18th. sat. is a gimmick ralley,basically they pick a scenic twisty route through the mountains and then we end up in some small town. The cool thing is that they have chase vehicles for those of us that break down. Sun is the show. They have same day registration. You also can go on line to www.coloradoconclave.com it would be great to have another Marcos out there. I am hoping Bill Black fron co. springs will make it this year. What city do you live in?Hal
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2005-08-11 by Stephen Spalding
----- Original Message -----From: Don LattimerSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:14 AMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBayDefinately a Mantula body. Probably a Martina with Ford mechanicals. It's only 2 hours away from me and only minutes away from Stephen in Mill Valley. I'll see what I can find out.Don#3M5759----- Original Message -----From: Dransfield, PaulSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:26 AMSubject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBayHi everyone,
The car on eBay is definitely a post 1980 model, most of which were V8s. The giveaway is the lack of bonnet clips, which were superseded by a cable-operated locking mechanism similar to a pair of hood releases, and the design of the front of the bonnet is definitely from a later model. If this car has a 4 cylinder engine, it was probably a kit, though the bulge on the bonnet was usually to accommodate a V6 or V8. The vendor obviously knows very little about the marque and may have registered it as a 1967 to get it into the country.
It'll be interesting to see what it goes for. It's in such poor condition, I'd be surprised if it sells for more than a few thousand dollars. What a shame it was allowed to deteriorate so far.
Regards,
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message-----
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hampton Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:29 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Another Marcos on EBay
Here's another Marcos on Ebay. It says 1967, but I don't think so.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Marcos-GT-1967-Marcos-GT-
VERY-RARE-Possibly-the-only-one-in-
US_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4567999124QQrdZ1
Regards,
Hampton
#5463
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2005-08-23 by Meggsief@aol.com
2005-08-23 by Don Lattimer
Yep, two days left and reserve is met at $8K USD. Don #3M5759 --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Meggsief@a... wrote:
> There is another marcos on e-bay #5078 '67 needs some work! > Hal > 5353