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Serial numbers, where are they?

Serial numbers, where are they?

2008-09-25 by hide809rig169

Motor Vehicle is inspecting my car tomorrow for serial numbers, I know 
there is one on the passenge side foot box, but are there any others?  
The inspector told me that the number on the foot box was a chassis 
number not the VIN!  I told him that is what there is. And in the UK 
that means car serial number.  So tomorrow I go back for another level 
of inspection.  My car is number 8001, 1982 of course, a tube chassis 
car.  Where can I find a number if at all? I am in the USA, Arizona.  
Oh, he also told me, looks like a gray market car (no kidding) and I 
might have to find a company to bring it up to federal safety and 
emissions specs.  I told him, it was legal in Ohio and Georgia, and 
the car was brought from the UK in parts (a kit car, I know a bad word 
to Marcos owners) the reply was, that doesn't make it legal in 
Arizona, I was nice, no argument or reasoning, I go back tomorrow.  
Where are the serials numbers?  Any one been through this before?
                    Thanks for the help,  Steve Vukobratovich

Re: Serial numbers, where are they?

2008-09-25 by Hampton Peterson

Steve,

I do not think there are any other ID or VIN plates other than the one 
attached to the passenger footwell in the engine compartment.  You may 
need to show your inspector the physical title to the car so they know 
there are no other numbers listed. Do you have copies of the old titles 
or some other history you could present?
Good luck.
Hampton
3M5463

RE: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

2008-09-25 by Tess254

Steve

My Marcos #5916 a 1971 was registered in Arizona for many years, and it when
through the state DMV inspection centers with out a problem.  The 1982 year
may be your problem, several of the kit cars in California are being built
with older engines to get them titled pre California year requirements for
emissions testing.

I don't think there are any other numbers on the car.  The federal safety is
a bigger problem than the emissions (the car is just too low for bumpers and
cash zones) to be redesigned into the car.  I would look into the custom
build class (hot rods etc.).

Good Luck!

Stephen Spalding

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Motor Vehicle is inspecting my car tomorrow for serial numbers, I know 
there is one on the passenge side foot box, but are there any others? 
The inspector told me that the number on the foot box was a chassis 
number not the VIN! I told him that is what there is. And in the UK 
that means car serial number. So tomorrow I go back for another level 
of inspection. My car is number 8001, 1982 of course, a tube chassis 
car. Where can I find a number if at all? I am in the USA, Arizona. 
Oh, he also told me, looks like a gray market car (no kidding) and I 
might have to find a company to bring it up to federal safety and 
emissions specs. I told him, it was legal in Ohio and Georgia, and 
the car was brought from the UK in parts (a kit car, I know a bad word 
to Marcos owners) the reply was, that doesn't make it legal in 
Arizona, I was nice, no argument or reasoning, I go back tomorrow. 
Where are the serials numbers? Any one been through this before?
Thanks for the help, Steve Vukobratovich

Re: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

2008-09-26 by larry meadows

Steve,
On the earlier cars, The serial no. is steel stamped on the left hand forward frame rail close to the upper shock mount (usually just forward of the weldment) and written on the dash sub-facia along with the original colour (if painted at the factory). All these nos. should match the data plate on the pedal box cover.
Larry
3v5536

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Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

Steve

My Marcos #5916 a 1971 was registered in Arizona for many years, and it when through the state DMV inspection centers with out a problem. The 1982 year may be your problem, several of the kit cars in California are being built with older engines to get them titled pre California year requirements for emissions testing.

I don’t think there are any other numbers on the car. The federal safety is a bigger problem than the emissions (the car is just too low for bumpers and cash zones) to be redesigned into the car. I would look into the custom build class (hot rods etc.).

Good Luck!

Stephen Spalding

From: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of hide809rig169
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:08 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

Motor Vehicle is inspecting my car tomorrow for serial numbers, I know
there is one on the passenge side foot box, but are there any others?
The inspector told me that the number on the foot box was a chassis
number not the VIN! I told him that is what there is. And in the UK
that means car serial number. So tomorrow I go back for another level
of inspection. My car is number 8001, 1982 of course, a tube chassis
car. Where can I find a number if at all? I am in the USA , Arizona .
Oh, he also told me, looks like a gray market car (no kidding) and I
might have to find a company to bring it up to federal safety and
emissions specs. I told him, it was legal in Ohio and Georgia , and
the car was brought from the UK in parts (a kit car, I know a bad word
to Marcos owners) the reply was, that doesn't make it legal in
Arizona , I was nice, no argument or reasoning, I go back tomorrow.
Where are the serials numbers? Any one been through this before?
Thanks for the help, Steve Vukobratovich


Re: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

2008-10-01 by Donny Lang

Steve,
Larry told me where to look for my 1970 car, and I located my numbers on the panel behind the dash face, as well as the original color. Remove the speedo, and look through the hole to see the writing. Mine did not have the frame rail stamps though. Rory later confirmed the numbers, and sent a new serial plate with heritage documentation.
-Donny #2M5514
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Steve,
On the earlier cars, The serial no. is steel stamped on the left hand forward frame rail close to the upper shock mount (usually just forward of the weldment) and written on the dash sub-facia along with the original colour (if painted at the factory). All these nos. should match the data plate on the pedal box cover.
Larry
3v5536

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From: Tess254 net>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:45:11 AM
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

Steve

My Marcos #5916 a 1971 was registered in Arizona for many years, and it when through the state DMV inspection centers with out a problem. The 1982 year may be your problem, several of the kit cars in California are being built with older engines to get them titled pre California year requirements for emissions testing.

I don’t think there are any other numbers on the car. The federal safety is a bigger problem than the emissions (the car is just too low for bumpers and cash zones) to be redesigned into the car. I would look into the custom build class (hot rods etc.).

Good Luck!

Stephen Spalding

From: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of hide809rig169
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:08 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

Motor Vehicle is inspecting my car tomorrow for serial numbers, I know
there is one on the passenge side foot box, but are there any others?
The inspector told me that the number on the foot box was a chassis
number not the VIN! I told him that is what there is. And in the UK
that means car serial number. So tomorrow I go back for another level
of inspection. My car is number 8001, 1982 of course, a tube chassis
car. Where can I find a number if at all? I am in the USA , Arizona .
Oh, he also told me, looks like a gray market car (no kidding) and I
might have to find a company to bring it up to federal safety and
emissions specs. I told him, it was legal in Ohio and Georgia , and
the car was brought from the UK in parts (a kit car, I know a bad word
to Marcos owners) the reply was, that doesn't make it legal in
Arizona , I was nice, no argument or reasoning, I go back tomorrow.
Where are the serials numbers? Any one been through this before?
Thanks for the help, Steve Vukobratovich


Re: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?

2008-10-01 by adrian.mann@talk21.com

If you still have the original 4 speed gear box and overdrive fitted you may also find the chassis serial number  stamped on the gearbox cross member. The issue is you have to unbolt the cross member and remove the rubber mount to see it. Also if you cross member is quite badly corroded you might not be able to see the numbers anymore. 
 
Cheers
Adrian

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Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 1 October, 2008, 7:22 PM







Steve, 
Larry told me where to look for my 1970 car, and I located my numbers on the panel behind the dash face, as well as the original color. Remove the speedo, and look through the hole to see the writing. Mine did not have the frame rail stamps though. Rory later confirmed the numbers, and sent a new serial plate with heritage documentation. 
-Donny #2M5514

----- Original Message ----- 
From: larry meadows 
To: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?





Steve, 
On the earlier cars, The serial no. is steel stamped on the left hand forward frame rail close to the upper shock mount (usually just forward of the weldment) and written on the dash sub-facia along with the original colour (if painted at the factory). All these nos. should match the data plate on the pedal box cover.
Larry
3v5536



----- Original Message ----
From: Tess254 <tess254@comcast. net>
To: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:45:11 AM
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?





Steve
My Marcos #5916 a 1971 was registered in Arizona for many years, and it when through the state DMV inspection centers with out a problem.  The 1982 year may be your problem, several of the kit cars in California are being built with older engines to get them titled pre California year requirements for emissions testing.
I don’t think there are any other numbers on the car.  The federal safety is a bigger problem than the emissions (the car is just too low for bumpers and cash zones) to be redesigned into the car.  I would look into the custom build class (hot rods etc.).
Good Luck!
Stephen Spalding




From: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of hide809rig169
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:08 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Serial numbers, where are they?
 



Motor Vehicle is inspecting my car tomorrow for serial numbers, I know 
there is one on the passenge side foot box, but are there any others? 
The inspector told me that the number on the foot box was a chassis 
number not the VIN! I told him that is what there is. And in the UK 
that means car serial number. So tomorrow I go back for another level 
of inspection. My car is number 8001, 1982 of course, a tube chassis 
car. Where can I find a number if at all? I am in the USA , Arizona . 
Oh, he also told me, looks like a gray market car (no kidding) and I 
might have to find a company to bring it up to federal safety and 
emissions specs. I told him, it was legal in Ohio and Georgia , and 
the car was brought from the UK in parts (a kit car, I know a bad word 
to Marcos owners) the reply was, that doesn't make it legal in 
Arizona , I was nice, no argument or reasoning, I go back tomorrow. 
Where are the serials numbers? Any one been through this before?
Thanks for the help, Steve Vukobratovich

Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Serial numbers, where are they?

2009-02-21 by larry meadows

Good day, Hampton
I am going to a couple of British car shows in March and April with the Marcos and was wondering if you could join us (Ron McLeod and me) at The ALL BRITISH show is in Winter Park (near Orlando) on April 4th. Below is a registration form that Ron forwarded to me. 
Regards,
Larry
3V5536



Larry . . .
 
Here’s the registration form for the Winter Park show.
 
Regards . . . Ron McLeod
 

 
 
All British Show Car Registration
25th Annual Winter Park All British Car Show 
 Saturday, April 4, 2009    Rain or Shine
Name:  Your British Car         
Address:  Year:           
City:  Make:           
State: Zip:  Model:           
Phone:  E-Mail Address:         
*Individual Pre-registration fee $28 per car.*    *****$30 at the gate No tee shirt *****
Must be received by 3/28/09 to include your free T-Shirt (a $15 value) T-Shirt Size:
  M L XL XXL  
         
For each additional tee shirt add
$15.00 to the total
 
Circle    M      L      XL      XXL  
Please Circle yes or no if plan to attend the Meet and Greet on Friday from 5:00-7:00 at the Best Western Mt. Vernon Inn. Winter Park, Florida. Yes   No  
Checks Payable to: CF British Car Club  Mail to Attn: Jim McSweeney,   
3516 Seaford Lane,   Casselberry, Florida  32707  Sorry, no kit cars allowed. 
      Please Mark Your Vehicle's Make and Model Class      
  A  MG 1929-1955    N  Triumph TR6 1974-1976  ZM  Mini Moke  
  B  MGA      0  Triumph TR7. TR8 & Stag  ZS  Mini (Slide Window)  
  C  MGB/C 1962-1974 Chrome Bumper   P  Triumph Spitfire & GT6  ZR  Mini (Rollup Window)  
  D  MGB 1974.5-1980 Rubber Bumper   Q  Jaguar XK120, 140 & 150  AA  New Mini  
  E  MGB/C GT (All years)    R  Jaguar Early Sedans thru 1987 BB  Morgan  
  F  AH Bug eye, Sprite & MG Midget    S  Jaguar E Type Series I & II  CC  Lotus  
  G  Austin Healey  100    T  Jaguar E Type Series III  DD  Land Rover  
  H  Austin Healey  with Side Curtains    U  Jaguar XJS  EE  Rolls Royce/Bentley  
  J  Austin Healey 3000 Roll Up Win    V  Jaguar -later sedans 1987-on  FF  British Modified* 
  K  Triumph TR2 & TR3    W  Jaguar XK & XK8  GG  Open Class (All Marques  
  L  Triumph TR4, TR4A & TR250    X  TVR  GG  not included above) 
  M  Triumph TR6 1969-1973    Y  Sunbeam    Free Valve Cover Entry 
                                  *All Visibly Modified Cars, e.g. Engine conversion, etcetera. 
 
] am aware of the hazards with motor vehicle events and specifically release and indemnify the organizers, supporting sponsors, and the Winter Park All British Car Show  Committee collectively and separately, for any and all liability from personal injury or property damage incurred by me or my guest while participating in the Winter Park.  All British Car Show.   ] understand and agree that the Winter Park All British Car Show Committee reserves the right to revoke my registration and retain my registration fee should I engage in reckless dangerous and/or unsafe behavior. I Have Read, Understand and Agree to this release. 
                                                  
Signature   _________________________________________
 
 

________________________________

.




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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:53:00 AM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Serial numbers, where are they?


Steve,

I do not think there are any other ID or VIN plates other than the one 
attached to the passenger footwell in the engine compartment. You may 
need to show your inspector the physical title to the car so they know 
there are no other numbers listed. Do you have copies of the old titles 
or some other history you could present?
Good luck.
Hampton
3M5463

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