Marcos Maniacs

Hi all,

Happy New Year to everyone!

I am attempting to replace the rubber/steel bushings in my radius 
arms.  There are 8 of them.  After a number of hours spent removing 
just the nuts due to 30 years of road grime, undercoat of some sort, 
etc. I am now trying to remove the bolts.  I have been able to remove 
one!  The others are frozen.  What has happened is the metal insert 
in the rubber bushing has rusted to the bolt.  I have tried WD-40, 
Super Penetrant, brake fluid (eats everything else!) and applied 
heat.  A 5lb hammer and a drift just bounch off the bolt.  No luck at 
all.  

At this point I am at the "Sawz-all" stage.  I do not want to cut the 
bolts and the cutting of the rear ones would be very tricky indeed.  

Before I start cutting does anyone have any suggestions??  I'll try 
about anything.

Thanks,
Don Lattimer
#3m5759 V6
Willits, Ca

Hi Don
No doubt the bolts are no good anyway. Before I went for mass destruction, I
would try pressing the bolts through. Maybe a vise-like puller could be
used.
Dave (5006) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	mcaqmd [SMTP:donlattimer@...]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:31 AM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[MarcosManiacs] Radius rod help
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Happy New Year to everyone!
> 
> I am attempting to replace the rubber/steel bushings in my radius 
> arms.  There are 8 of them.  After a number of hours spent removing 
> just the nuts due to 30 years of road grime, undercoat of some sort, 
> etc. I am now trying to remove the bolts.  I have been able to remove 
> one!  The others are frozen.  What has happened is the metal insert 
> in the rubber bushing has rusted to the bolt.  I have tried WD-40, 
> Super Penetrant, brake fluid (eats everything else!) and applied 
> heat.  A 5lb hammer and a drift just bounch off the bolt.  No luck at 
> all.  
> 
> At this point I am at the "Sawz-all" stage.  I do not want to cut the 
> bolts and the cutting of the rear ones would be very tricky indeed.  
> 
> Before I start cutting does anyone have any suggestions??  I'll try 
> about anything.
> 
> Thanks,
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759 V6
> Willits, Ca
> 
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Don,
    When I took the radius rods out of my car I had to torch off
the bolt head from inside the boot and punch them out that way
    The glass will catch a bit but if you keep a wet rag handy and
a helper you should be o.k...........this might be a last resort in 
your case though seeing as it is a finished car..
        Good Luck Dave #5577  


















--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Happy New Year to everyone!
> 
> I am attempting to replace the rubber/steel bushings in my radius 
> arms.  There are 8 of them.  After a number of hours spent removing 
> just the nuts due to 30 years of road grime, undercoat of some sort, 
> etc. I am now trying to remove the bolts.  I have been able to 
remove 
> one!  The others are frozen.  What has happened is the metal insert 
> in the rubber bushing has rusted to the bolt.  I have tried WD-40, 
> Super Penetrant, brake fluid (eats everything else!) and applied 
> heat.  A 5lb hammer and a drift just bounch off the bolt.  No luck 
at 
> all.  
> 
> At this point I am at the "Sawz-all" stage.  I do not want to cut 
the 

> bolts and the cutting of the rear ones would be very tricky indeed. 
 
> 
> Before I start cutting does anyone have any suggestions??  I'll try 
> about anything.
> 
> Thanks,
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759 V6
> Willits, Ca

Hi Don.
When I replaced my bushings I eventually hade to cut the bolts with a dye 
grinder and a high speed cutoff wheel ,this requires an air comprerser, some 
good eye protection and a steady hand.I had to cut the bolts inside the 
brackets  If memory serves me  the spindles, hubs and just about everthing 
was removed for access and the car was up off the ground a good bit .as for a 
Sawsall goes I have my douts but give it a try but be careful.if you have any 
questions please call me on the phone and I will be happy to help . I  am not 
bragging but removing nasty fasteners is part of what I do for a living .
Yours Mark PN 469 5332
 GO MARCOS

Hi all,

Thanks for all the posts and also a phone call from Mike Denman.  It 
seems obvious now that what I planned on doing in one weekend will 
turn into a winter job!  Nice to know that I'm not alone.  

It seems that the cut-off wheel is the way to go.  I can't drill a 
straight hole if I tried Jack (and welcome aboard!).  As Mark states, 
that's what he does for a living, so I'll believe him.  

So now I have an excuse to purchase a new compressor and air tools.  
See.... there's a bright side to everything.  It's nice being single 
when these monetary decisions have to be made.  Rice and beans are 
good for you and sometimes Top Ramen is excellent.  Have to keep my 
priorities straight.

I'm afraid to ask but do the front suspension bushings present the 
same problem??

Thanks again,
Don Lattimer
#3M5759 V6
Willits, CA (in the redwoods)

Hi Don,
Yes the front suspension bushings have the same problem. Today I took 
the Right front side apart on my car and only had a moderate amount of 
problems with one bushing.  I still have the left side to do. Why they 
don't make the bushings with stainless steel inserts is beyond me.  
Good luck with your rear bushings.
Mike Denman
1966 Marcos 1800
Chassis # 4079


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for all the posts and also a phone call from Mike Denman.  It 
> seems obvious now that what I planned on doing in one weekend will 
> turn into a winter job!  Nice to know that I'm not alone.  
> 
> It seems that the cut-off wheel is the way to go.  I can't drill a 
> straight hole if I tried Jack (and welcome aboard!).  As Mark 
states, 

> that's what he does for a living, so I'll believe him.  
> 
> So now I have an excuse to purchase a new compressor and air tools.  
> See.... there's a bright side to everything.  It's nice being single 
> when these monetary decisions have to be made.  Rice and beans are 
> good for you and sometimes Top Ramen is excellent.  Have to keep my 
> priorities straight.
> 
> I'm afraid to ask but do the front suspension bushings present the 
> same problem??
> 
> Thanks again,
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759 V6
> Willits, CA (in the redwoods)

Hi Group,
       Just my 2 cents on the front control arm bushings...........
  you can punch out the sleeves with a socket just a bit smaller than 
the bushing itself .I replaced the bushings on mine with the poly 
bushings from Rimmers .Be warned though that the flange on the bushing 
is a bit to big and requires machining to fit into the brackets on
the frame.
                       Dave #5577


















--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "marcos18001966" <mikedenman@e...> wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Yes the front suspension bushings have the same problem. Today I 
took 
> the Right front side apart on my car and only had a moderate amount 
of 
> problems with one bushing.  I still have the left side to do. Why 
they 
> don't make the bushings with stainless steel inserts is beyond me.  
> Good luck with your rear bushings.
> Mike Denman
> 1966 Marcos 1800
> Chassis # 4079
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Thanks for all the posts and also a phone call from Mike Denman.  
It 
> > seems obvious now that what I planned on doing in one weekend will 
> > turn into a winter job!  Nice to know that I'm not alone.  
> > 
> > It seems that the cut-off wheel is the way to go.  I can't drill a 
> > straight hole if I tried Jack (and welcome aboard!).  As Mark 
> states, 
> > that's what he does for a living, so I'll believe him.  
> > 
> > So now I have an excuse to purchase a new compressor and air 
tools.  
> > See.... there's a bright side to everything.  It's nice being 
single 
> > when these monetary decisions have to be made.  Rice and beans are 
> > good for you and sometimes Top Ramen is excellent.  Have to keep 
my 

> > priorities straight.
> > 
> > I'm afraid to ask but do the front suspension bushings present the 
> > same problem??
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3M5759 V6
> > Willits, CA (in the redwoods)