Hey, you are taking this much too personally! I was not being condescending. I am sure that most players on this list can play circles around me. This is only my opinion!!!!!!!... It sounds as if we agree more than disagree. When the Mellotron was introduced nothing else could sound like it. So if you wanted your own "orchestra" onstage with you, you had to pay the price. When synthesized sounds came into fashion (and yes, I too owned and programmed a MiniMoog during the 70's), the Mellotron started to wane to those crappy synth strings (ARP String Ensemble . "Dream Weaver", etc). Then when digital samplers appeared (Fairlight, CMI) the tron basically disappeared. So why would we spend $2500-$5000 for a tron now? Because I am a collector and love this instrument for what it is and what it stands for. (Yes, I was freezing my ass off in the rain listening to Ian McDonald play Epitaph, and that changed my musical life!) I do not begrudge others for selling copies of it. Hell, I sell samples of obsolete instruments myself. I applaud the folks who developed the Memotron, as I will for any business person who takes such an enormous financial risk. I am just questioning the wisdom in purchasing such a limited, expensive tool, that's all. And so I made a type with "knights". Big deal. That should be the worst mistake I make when typing an email. -----Original Message----- From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jonesalley And finally, David. I hope your post was not intended to be as condescending as it seemed. I'm glad you have lots of toys. Most real Mellotron owners seem to also have a lot of toys. My Mellotron is one of the nineteen keyboards in my collection, which also includes some primo modern toys and some scarce old analog toys. I started playing piano forty-eight years ago, started programming synths thirty-five years ago, and I am well aware of the capabilities of modern instruments. You want to talk functional, versatile, and reliable? My sole stage keyboard for about eight years has been one tiny nine-and-a-half pound Korg X5D loaded only with my own custom programs, including painstaking Mellotron replications that are frightfully authentic, even to 8-second cutoff, randomness of attack, and tape rewind snick. My entire stage rig is the X5D, a Presonus MP-20 that serves as mixer and direct box, a pair of Samson XP-200 powered monitors, a tall Quik-Lok keyboard stand and a couple of Quik-Lok's small keyboard stands on which to elevate my speakers. I can carry my rig in two trips, by myself, and set it up in ten minutes. As far as reliable goes, while the only problems I have ever had are mechanical ones like broken keys, my rig is small and inexpensive enough that I carry spares of everything to performances. A meteor could obliterate my entire setup and I would simply go out to the car and get the backup rig and be ready to play again in fifteen minutes. Functional and versatile? Rather than giving you a list of what I can do with it (which happens to include some of your own examples, like "(K)Nights in White Satin") I'll be happy to put my money where my mouth is and let you hear some cuts for yourself, with no overdubs, no sequences, nothing other than what I make happen with my ten fingers: http://www.wichitabandscene.com/bio.asp?showBandName=Jon#music http://www.wichitabandscene.com/bio.asp?showBandName=ICT#music So, please grant me the credibility that I have earned as a player and a programmer and don't talk down to me. I still say the Memotron is a boon for people who want to have the familiar set of controls, the familiar set of sounds, a taste of the Mellotron experience, but who don't want to risk their genuine Mellotron, and who don't think that a garden-variety sampler will provide the right multi-sensory experience. And I still wish that our two groups of Mellotron developers, restorers, preservers would have done this first, because, as neat a trick as I think this Memotron thing is, it would have likely been done a lot better by the guys that know it best. _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Mellotronists <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mellotronists> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Mellotronists-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Mellotronists-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____
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RE: [Mellotronists] Memotron, Shmemotron
2006-01-30 by David Jacques
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