Mellotronists

Greetings,
     The buttons on the optigan have a rubber sheet
over them to protect them from dust.  It decays,
fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck between
the contacts.  Open the top panel and disassemble the
button assembly.  It will be orange (the same color as
a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel).  Remove the
sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any leftover
chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please disregard if
this is old news to you.
-Jack Younger, former optigan owner and current 'tron
owner

--- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> I love the Orchestron...It\ufffds a close second to the
> Mellotron in my studio. There is something truly
> magical about those choirs and strings...The french
> horn on the other sounds a bit like it\ufffds played
> inside a submarine by someone with a terrible cold
> miked from the surface...I have used it though...!
> 
> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have died...sort
> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a Tom
> Waits vibe...
> I have to fix them some day...Now I just I play the
> discs in the Orchestron...
> 
> Are the Birotron sounds different recordings than
> the Mellotron sounds ? Would it be possible to
> transfer them to tape...or maybe even optical discs
> ?
> 
> // Mattias
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>   From: fdoddy@... 
>   To: mellotronists@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:04 PM
>   Subject: [Mellotronists] Fwd: Love, twue love
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       I love the sound of the Orchestron (seriously)
> Missed out on a dual 
>   manual model that was on Ebay a few years back. If
> anyone ever needs a 
>   home for one, I got it 
>    
>   I do have an Optigan that is non-functioning pile
> of scrap... 
>    
>   Fritz 
>    
> 
>       
> 
> 
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On 28 Apr 2005, at 22:50, Jack Younger wrote:

> Greetings,
>      The buttons on the optigan have a rubber sheet
> over them to protect them from dust.  It decays,
> fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck between
> the contacts.  Open the top panel and disassemble the
> button assembly.  It will be orange (the same color as
> a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel).  Remove the
> sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any leftover
> chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
> cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please disregard if
> this is old news to you.
> -Jack Younger, former optigan owner and current 'tron
> owner

Thanks for that!

I loved your beer.

The same is slowly happening to mine. I thought the only way out would 
be to coax every button into life with deft prodding and then sample 
the loop!
>
> --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
>>
>> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have died...sort
>> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a Tom
>> Waits vibe...

Surely *everything* played on an Optigan sounds like Tom Waits?

Cx

http://www.s-club.co.uk
        Sundae Club*
         PO Box 862
         Cheltenham
           GL52 2XT

Not a problem,
      If the contacts still give you a problem, hit
them with a pencil eraser and then some contact
cleaner.  Just like electric race-car contacts.  It
was built by a toy company, it is essentially a toy, I
find it's best to follow suit and use toy repair
methods.  I also find that striking the unit can be
helpful as well.
     Oh, and, regretfully, no relation to the beer.
-Jack
  
--- Colin Crawford <g-colin.crawford@...>
wrote:
> 
> On 28 Apr 2005, at 22:50, Jack Younger wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >      The buttons on the optigan have a rubber
> sheet
> > over them to protect them from dust.  It decays,
> > fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck
> between
> > the contacts.  Open the top panel and disassemble
> the
> > button assembly.  It will be orange (the same
> color as
> > a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel).  Remove
> the
> > sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any
> leftover
> > chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
> > cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please disregard
> if
> > this is old news to you.
> > -Jack Younger, former optigan owner and current
> 'tron
> > owner
> 
> Thanks for that!
> 
> I loved your beer.
> 
> The same is slowly happening to mine. I thought the
> only way out would 
> be to coax every button into life with deft prodding
> and then sample 
> the loop!
> >
> > --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have
> died...sort
> >> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a Tom
> >> Waits vibe...
> 
> Surely *everything* played on an Optigan sounds like
> Tom Waits?
> 
> Cx
> 
> http://www.s-club.co.uk
>         Sundae Club*
>          PO Box 862
>          Cheltenham
>            GL52 2XT
> 
> 

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Sorry but No!!! -  Don't use the pencil eraser and/r contact cleaner!!

When I got my first optigan back in 1992, I cleaned the contacts with 99%
isopropanol, and it did wonders for the machine. This also worked on
subsequent optigans as well.

Some years later I tried the pencil eraser / contact cleaner method on
another optigan and regretted it. Don't use this method!

The pencil eraser (being a petroleum product) leaves a slight oily residue
which becomes evident after the optigan has been on for a while. This
problem gets worse when contact cleaner (which may have a lubricant) is
added to it.

Combine the original pencil eraser residue with the contact cleaner residue
and you'll get more severe gunk problems with the contacts. What's worse,
you may not be able to remove the gunk because it can become like glue after
mixing with the residues left by the original latex sheet.

Stick with one simple cleaner - never mix oil based chemicals/products on
the optigan contacts. Use only 99% alcohol to clean the contacts the way you
would on mellotron/chamberlin tape heads and you'll do no wrong.  I now have
5 operational optigans with no crosstalk and some even have (dare I say it)
a more "clean and even" sound.


Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Younger" <e4103s@...>
To: "Colin Crawford" <g-colin.crawford@...>
Cc: "Mellotronists" <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Optigan buttons gone awry...


> Not a problem,
>       If the contacts still give you a problem, hit
> them with a pencil eraser and then some contact
> cleaner.  Just like electric race-car contacts.  It
> was built by a toy company, it is essentially a toy, I
> find it's best to follow suit and use toy repair
> methods.  I also find that striking the unit can be
> helpful as well.
>      Oh, and, regretfully, no relation to the beer.
> -Jack
>
> --- Colin Crawford <g-colin.crawford@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 28 Apr 2005, at 22:50, Jack Younger wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >      The buttons on the optigan have a rubber
> > sheet
> > > over them to protect them from dust.  It decays,
> > > fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck
> > between
> > > the contacts.  Open the top panel and disassemble
> > the
> > > button assembly.  It will be orange (the same
> > color as
> > > a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel).  Remove
> > the
> > > sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any
> > leftover
> > > chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
> > > cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please disregard
> > if
> > > this is old news to you.
> > > -Jack Younger, former optigan owner and current
> > 'tron
> > > owner
> >
> > Thanks for that!
> >
> > I loved your beer.
> >
> > The same is slowly happening to mine. I thought the
> > only way out would
> > be to coax every button into life with deft prodding
> > and then sample
> > the loop!
> > >
> > > --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have
> > died...sort
> > >> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a Tom
> > >> Waits vibe...
> >
> > Surely *everything* played on an Optigan sounds like
> > Tom Waits?
> >
> > Cx
> >
> > http://www.s-club.co.uk
> >         Sundae Club*
> >          PO Box 862
> >          Cheltenham
> >            GL52 2XT
> >
> >
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I cleaned mine with dogshit.  It sounds much better, now.

-jh


--- Chris Dale <chris.dale@...> wrote:

> Sorry but No!!! -  Don't use the pencil eraser and/r
> contact cleaner!!
> 
> When I got my first optigan back in 1992, I cleaned the
> contacts with 99%
> isopropanol, and it did wonders for the machine. This also
> worked on
> subsequent optigans as well.
> 
> Some years later I tried the pencil eraser / contact
> cleaner method on
> another optigan and regretted it. Don't use this method!
> 
> The pencil eraser (being a petroleum product) leaves a
> slight oily residue
> which becomes evident after the optigan has been on for a
> while. This
> problem gets worse when contact cleaner (which may have a
> lubricant) is
> added to it.
> 
> Combine the original pencil eraser residue with the contact
> cleaner residue
> and you'll get more severe gunk problems with the contacts.
> What's worse,
> you may not be able to remove the gunk because it can
> become like glue after
> mixing with the residues left by the original latex sheet.
> 
> Stick with one simple cleaner - never mix oil based
> chemicals/products on
> the optigan contacts. Use only 99% alcohol to clean the
> contacts the way you
> would on mellotron/chamberlin tape heads and you'll do no
> wrong.  I now have
> 5 operational optigans with no crosstalk and some even have
> (dare I say it)
> a more "clean and even" sound.
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Younger" <e4103s@...>
> To: "Colin Crawford" <g-colin.crawford@...>
> Cc: "Mellotronists" <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Optigan buttons gone awry...
> 
> 
> > Not a problem,
> >       If the contacts still give you a problem, hit
> > them with a pencil eraser and then some contact
> > cleaner.  Just like electric race-car contacts.  It
> > was built by a toy company, it is essentially a toy, I
> > find it's best to follow suit and use toy repair
> > methods.  I also find that striking the unit can be
> > helpful as well.
> >      Oh, and, regretfully, no relation to the beer.
> > -Jack
> >
> > --- Colin Crawford <g-colin.crawford@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 28 Apr 2005, at 22:50, Jack Younger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >      The buttons on the optigan have a rubber
> > > sheet
> > > > over them to protect them from dust.  It decays,
> > > > fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck
> > > between
> > > > the contacts.  Open the top panel and disassemble
> > > the
> > > > button assembly.  It will be orange (the same
> > > color as
> > > > a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel).  Remove
> > > the
> > > > sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any
> > > leftover
> > > > chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
> > > > cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please disregard
> > > if
> > > > this is old news to you.
> > > > -Jack Younger, former optigan owner and current
> > > 'tron
> > > > owner
> > >
> > > Thanks for that!
> > >
> > > I loved your beer.
> > >
> > > The same is slowly happening to mine. I thought the
> > > only way out would
> > > be to coax every button into life with deft prodding
> > > and then sample
> > > the loop!
> > > >
> > > > --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have
> > > died...sort
> > > >> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a Tom
> > > >> Waits vibe...
> > >
> > > Surely *everything* played on an Optigan sounds like
> > > Tom Waits?
> > >
> > > Cx
> > >
> > > http://www.s-club.co.uk
> > >         Sundae Club*
> > >          PO Box 862
> > >          Cheltenham
> > >            GL52 2XT
> > >
> > >
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I prefer to just lick the contacts. Best done with the power off, I  
discovered.
 
F

Fellows,
     My apologies if this method isn't pro enough.  It
did work beautifully and I never had another problem
with the buttons.  Then again, the contact cleaner I
use is not cheap or oil/lube based.  I will say that
clean is clean and no matter what you use, there
should be NO residue.  It was not my intention to
mislead.
Humbly,
-Jack Younger


--- Chris Dale <chris.dale@...> wrote:

> Sorry but No!!! -  Don't use the pencil eraser and/r
> contact cleaner!!
> 
> When I got my first optigan back in 1992, I cleaned
> the contacts with 99%
> isopropanol, and it did wonders for the machine.
> This also worked on
> subsequent optigans as well.
> 
> Some years later I tried the pencil eraser / contact
> cleaner method on
> another optigan and regretted it. Don't use this
> method!
> 
> The pencil eraser (being a petroleum product) leaves
> a slight oily residue
> which becomes evident after the optigan has been on
> for a while. This
> problem gets worse when contact cleaner (which may
> have a lubricant) is
> added to it.
> 
> Combine the original pencil eraser residue with the
> contact cleaner residue
> and you'll get more severe gunk problems with the
> contacts. What's worse,
> you may not be able to remove the gunk because it
> can become like glue after
> mixing with the residues left by the original latex
> sheet.
> 
> Stick with one simple cleaner - never mix oil based
> chemicals/products on
> the optigan contacts. Use only 99% alcohol to clean
> the contacts the way you
> would on mellotron/chamberlin tape heads and you'll
> do no wrong.  I now have
> 5 operational optigans with no crosstalk and some
> even have (dare I say it)
> a more "clean and even" sound.
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Younger" <e4103s@...>
> To: "Colin Crawford" <g-colin.crawford@...>
> Cc: "Mellotronists" <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Optigan buttons gone
> awry...
> 
> 
> > Not a problem,
> >       If the contacts still give you a problem,
> hit
> > them with a pencil eraser and then some contact
> > cleaner.  Just like electric race-car contacts. 
> It
> > was built by a toy company, it is essentially a
> toy, I
> > find it's best to follow suit and use toy repair
> > methods.  I also find that striking the unit can
> be
> > helpful as well.
> >      Oh, and, regretfully, no relation to the
> beer.
> > -Jack
> >
> > --- Colin Crawford <g-colin.crawford@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 28 Apr 2005, at 22:50, Jack Younger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >      The buttons on the optigan have a rubber
> > > sheet
> > > > over them to protect them from dust.  It
> decays,
> > > > fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck
> > > between
> > > > the contacts.  Open the top panel and
> disassemble
> > > the
> > > > button assembly.  It will be orange (the same
> > > color as
> > > > a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel). 
> Remove
> > > the
> > > > sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any
> > > leftover
> > > > chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
> > > > cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please
> disregard
> > > if
> > > > this is old news to you.
> > > > -Jack Younger, former optigan owner and
> current
> > > 'tron
> > > > owner
> > >
> > > Thanks for that!
> > >
> > > I loved your beer.
> > >
> > > The same is slowly happening to mine. I thought
> the
> > > only way out would
> > > be to coax every button into life with deft
> prodding
> > > and then sample
> > > the loop!
> > > >
> > > > --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have
> > > died...sort
> > > >> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a
> Tom
> > > >> Waits vibe...
> > >
> > > Surely *everything* played on an Optigan sounds
> like
> > > Tom Waits?
> > >
> > > Cx
> > >
> > > http://www.s-club.co.uk
> > >         Sundae Club*
> > >          PO Box 862
> > >          Cheltenham
> > >            GL52 2XT
> > >
> > >
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...QUICK!!! Blame it on the beer!  

> Fellows,
>     My apologies if this method isn't pro enough.  It
> did work beautifully and I never had another problem
> with the buttons.  Then again, the contact cleaner I
> use is not cheap or oil/lube based.  I will say that
> clean is clean and no matter what you use, there
> should be NO residue.  It was not my intention to
> mislead.
> Humbly,
> -Jack Younger

For what's it's worth I cleaned literally hundreds of computer keyboard 
contacts as a tech for a major company without problems. I also know it to 
be a common method. This is NOT to say that it is the best way of cleaning, 
it was simply the way we were trained. I think it had to do with the 
properties of the erasers used. What else could it be?

Tony
#510
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Younger" <e4103s@...>
To: "Chris Dale" <chris.dale@...>; "Colin Crawford" 
<g-colin.crawford@...>
Cc: "Mellotronists" <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Optigan buttons gone awry...


> Fellows,
>     My apologies if this method isn't pro enough.  It
> did work beautifully and I never had another problem
> with the buttons.  Then again, the contact cleaner I
> use is not cheap or oil/lube based.  I will say that
> clean is clean and no matter what you use, there
> should be NO residue.  It was not my intention to
> mislead.
> Humbly,
> -Jack Younger
>
>
> --- Chris Dale <chris.dale@...> wrote:
>
>> Sorry but No!!! -  Don't use the pencil eraser and/r
>> contact cleaner!!
>>
>> When I got my first optigan back in 1992, I cleaned
>> the contacts with 99%
>> isopropanol, and it did wonders for the machine.
>> This also worked on
>> subsequent optigans as well.
>>
>> Some years later I tried the pencil eraser / contact
>> cleaner method on
>> another optigan and regretted it. Don't use this
>> method!
>>
>> The pencil eraser (being a petroleum product) leaves
>> a slight oily residue
>> which becomes evident after the optigan has been on
>> for a while. This
>> problem gets worse when contact cleaner (which may
>> have a lubricant) is
>> added to it.
>>
>> Combine the original pencil eraser residue with the
>> contact cleaner residue
>> and you'll get more severe gunk problems with the
>> contacts. What's worse,
>> you may not be able to remove the gunk because it
>> can become like glue after
>> mixing with the residues left by the original latex
>> sheet.
>>
>> Stick with one simple cleaner - never mix oil based
>> chemicals/products on
>> the optigan contacts. Use only 99% alcohol to clean
>> the contacts the way you
>> would on mellotron/chamberlin tape heads and you'll
>> do no wrong.  I now have
>> 5 operational optigans with no crosstalk and some
>> even have (dare I say it)
>> a more "clean and even" sound.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack Younger" <e4103s@...>
>> To: "Colin Crawford" <g-colin.crawford@...>
>> Cc: "Mellotronists" <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Optigan buttons gone
>> awry...
>>
>>
>> > Not a problem,
>> >       If the contacts still give you a problem,
>> hit
>> > them with a pencil eraser and then some contact
>> > cleaner.  Just like electric race-car contacts.
>> It
>> > was built by a toy company, it is essentially a
>> toy, I
>> > find it's best to follow suit and use toy repair
>> > methods.  I also find that striking the unit can
>> be
>> > helpful as well.
>> >      Oh, and, regretfully, no relation to the
>> beer.
>> > -Jack
>> >
>> > --- Colin Crawford <g-colin.crawford@...>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 28 Apr 2005, at 22:50, Jack Younger wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Greetings,
>> > > >      The buttons on the optigan have a rubber
>> > > sheet
>> > > > over them to protect them from dust.  It
>> decays,
>> > > > fragments over time and pieces of it get stuck
>> > > between
>> > > > the contacts.  Open the top panel and
>> disassemble
>> > > the
>> > > > button assembly.  It will be orange (the same
>> > > color as
>> > > > a Hot Wheels track strip, ahhhh, Mattel).
>> Remove
>> > > the
>> > > > sheet (or what's left of it), clean out any
>> > > leftover
>> > > > chunks and wipe the contacts down with contact
>> > > > cleaner.  Now they should work.  Please
>> disregard
>> > > if
>> > > > this is old news to you.
>> > > > -Jack Younger, former optigan owner and
>> current
>> > > 'tron
>> > > > owner
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for that!
>> > >
>> > > I loved your beer.
>> > >
>> > > The same is slowly happening to mine. I thought
>> the
>> > > only way out would
>> > > be to coax every button into life with deft
>> prodding
>> > > and then sample
>> > > the loop!
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On my Optigan the autokomp buttons have
>> > > died...sort
>> > > >> of. They all play at once creating kind of  a
>> Tom
>> > > >> Waits vibe...
>> > >
>> > > Surely *everything* played on an Optigan sounds
>> like
>> > > Tom Waits?
>> > >
>> > > Cx
>> > >
>> > > http://www.s-club.co.uk
>> > >         Sundae Club*
>> > >          PO Box 862
>> > >          Cheltenham
>> > >            GL52 2XT
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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----- Original Message -----

From: lsf5275@...

To: j_hofmeyer@... ; mellotronists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:00 AM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Optigan buttons gone awry...

I prefer to just lick the contacts. Best done with the power off, I discovered.

F