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Memotron demos now online

2005-08-24 by kinchmusic@aol.com

I know this has been mentioned before, but the mp3 demos are now  available  
_http://www.manikin-electronic.com/products/memotron/memo_description_e.html_ 
(http://www.manikin-electronic.com/products/memotron/memo_description_e.html) 
 
What do we think? On the face of it, the overall sound is pretty  impressive. 
But there's so much reverb being used, I can't tell.
It will be interesting to see what price it sells for.
I wonder what the origin of the recordings were?
For us, the original machines will always be the most desirable of  
instruments.
But for those out on the road.........
Interesting..
Cheers.
Andy K

Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-24 by jonesalley

They are saying at this time that the price will be about $2500 USD. It would be a lot more valuable for the purists to hear the instrument without effects, and played by somebody with Mellotron technique instead of a wiggly plastic synth keyboard technique, but I still think it may be as close as you can get to the real thing without having to jump through hoops. At least until somebody takes me up on my idea of a digital Mark II from a couple of years ago...
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I know this has been mentioned before, but the mp3 demos are now available
What do we think? On the face of it, the overall sound is pretty impressive. But there's so much reverb being used, I can't tell.
It will be interesting to see what price it sells for.
I wonder what the origin of the recordings were?
For us, the original machines will always be the most desirable of instruments.
But for those out on the road.........
Interesting..
Cheers.
Andy K

Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-24 by Ken Leonard

>I know this has been mentioned before, but the mp3 demos are now available
>http://www.manikin-electronic.com/products/memotron/memo_description_e.html

What is "studio" vs. "vintage"?  The "vintage" flute sounds cruddy and 
"studio" 3 violins are better but just (they probably mixed up the "studio" 
and "vintage" violin demos), "vintage" brass a bit better.  The other 
sounds are almost too clean for a 'tron; the clean violins have an edge 
that could be the MP3 encoding but maybe not.  I wonder if they give you a 
choice of two for each sound---a version that sounds...uhhh..."vintage" and 
a clean one?  Kinda like the organ state-of-disrepair emulations in the NI 
B-4, maybe?  I got your wobblies and leakage right here!  :-)

The tape attack sounds electronically reproduced on the "vintage" 
brass.  Or is that just my ears?  Maybe they simulate the tape smack 
electronically, or they could use different samples based on key velocity.

I still like the concept, though, of a small sample player that uses 
CF.  It'd be great to be able to load up samples from anywhere/everywhere 
on the PC and dump them into a unit like the Memotron via CF.  I'm sure 
that some keyboard somewhere already has such capability or will simply 
take downloads from the PC via USB or something.  I dunno - there's only 
one sample player I've ever done any research on, and it's been obsolete 
for over 25 years now.  :-)

...kl...
M400 #805 - obsolete...?
M400 #1037 - leakage...?  sounds like a personal problem...

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Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-24 by jonesalley

As near as I can tell, "vintage" means "too much reverb" and "studio" means 
'WAAAAAAY too much reverb."  Hope this helps.




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>>I know this has been mentioned before, but the mp3 demos are now available
>>http://www.manikin-electronic.com/products/memotron/memo_description_e.html
>
> What is "studio" vs. "vintage"?  The "vintage" flute sounds cruddy and
> "studio" 3 violins are better but just (they probably mixed up the 
> "studio"
> and "vintage" violin demos), "vintage" brass a bit better.  The other
> sounds are almost too clean for a 'tron; the clean violins have an edge
> that could be the MP3 encoding but maybe not.  I wonder if they give you a
> choice of two for each sound---a version that sounds...uhhh..."vintage" 
> and
> a clean one?  Kinda like the organ state-of-disrepair emulations in the NI
> B-4, maybe?  I got your wobblies and leakage right here!  :-)
>
> The tape attack sounds electronically reproduced on the "vintage"
> brass.  Or is that just my ears?  Maybe they simulate the tape smack
> electronically, or they could use different samples based on key velocity.
>
> I still like the concept, though, of a small sample player that uses
> CF.  It'd be great to be able to load up samples from anywhere/everywhere
> on the PC and dump them into a unit like the Memotron via CF.  I'm sure
> that some keyboard somewhere already has such capability or will simply
> take downloads from the PC via USB or something.  I dunno - there's only
> one sample player I've ever done any research on, and it's been obsolete
> for over 25 years now.  :-)
>
> ...kl...
> M400 #805 - obsolete...?
> M400 #1037 - leakage...?  sounds like a personal problem...
>
> ** Ken Leonard - Web Table of Contents:  http://www.kleonard.com
> >> CD available! "Improvised Waves: Mellotron/synth improvisations"
> ** Get Outdoors New England:  http://www.GONewEngland.org
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Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by Jack Younger

Yuck.  $2500 and years of development for another dose
of yuck.  Will they ever learn?  
-Jack
E104S "No yuck." 

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Re: Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by ceccles_ca

An alternative to the Memotron...
Tascam's GigaStudio soft-sampler, with the Pinder CD rom running on a
roadworthy PC DAW, triggered by a good midi keyboard.  This would cost
more than $2,500 USD.  You would also have access to tons of great
modern sample voices.

The Memotron keyboard looks tiny.  Can you load sample voices other
than mellotron voices?

These mp3's sound good to me.  Too much reverb makes for a fairly
typical 'tron recording....Doesn't it?

http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html

Clay
MK VI #019

[Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

> It will be interesting to see what price it sells for.

They tell me about 1600 Euros (about 1000 UKP, give or take a bit).

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

RE: [Mellotronists] Re: Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by David Jacques

I have even a better alternative. A Motif ES and my Mellotron samples. $1800
for the ES and $20 for the samples.. Works great for me, and many others..
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An alternative to the Memotron...
Tascam's GigaStudio soft-sampler, with the Pinder CD rom running on a
roadworthy PC DAW, triggered by a good midi keyboard.  This would cost
more than $2,500 USD.  You would also have access to tons of great
modern sample voices.

The Memotron keyboard looks tiny.  Can you load sample voices other
than mellotron voices?

These mp3's sound good to me.  Too much reverb makes for a fairly
typical 'tron recording....Doesn't it?

http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html

Clay
MK VI #019





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RE: [Mellotronists] Re: Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by Stan Cotey

Muse Receptor and M-Tron?  Under $1500 street...  

 

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I have even a better alternative... A Motif ES and my Mellotron samples.
$1800 for the ES and $20 for the samples.... Works great for me, and
many others....

 

 

 

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An alternative to the Memotron...
Tascam's GigaStudio soft-sampler, with the Pinder CD rom running on a
roadworthy PC DAW, triggered by a good midi keyboard.  This would cost
more than $2,500 USD.  You would also have access to tons of great
modern sample voices.

The Memotron keyboard looks tiny.  Can you load sample voices other
than mellotron voices?

These mp3's sound good to me.  Too much reverb makes for a fairly
typical 'tron recording....Doesn't it?

http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html

Clay
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Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by NormLeete@aol.com

In a message dated 24/08/2005 23:14:09 GMT Daylight Time,  kinchmusic@... 
writes:

What do  we think?


To me it sounds good, but not the same as a Mellotron! Similar but not the  
same as there are some characteristics missing...
 
All the best,
Norm

Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by kinchmusic@aol.com

In a message dated 25/08/2005 22:46:41 GMT Daylight Time, NormLeete@... writes:
me it sounds good, but not the same as a Mellotron! Similar but not the same as there are some characteristics missing...
Yeah, a bit like having a Strat copy. Good, but no cigar!
Andy K

Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-25 by Colin Crawford

On 25 Aug 2005, at 22:49, kinchmusic@... wrote:

> In a message dated 25/08/2005 22:46:41 GMT Daylight Time, 
> NormLeete@... writes:
>> me it sounds good, but not the same as a Mellotron! Similar but not 
>> the same as there are some characteristics missing...Yeah, a bit like 
>> having a Strat copy. Good, but no cigar!

"Close" I think you mean!!

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Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-26 by lsf5275@aol.com

It is JUST A SAMPLE PLAYER. That makes it a sample player of a sample  
player. It is no better than playing samples back on my Triton Pro X. They sound  
great. But my Mellotron is right there and it sounds so much more like a  
Mellotron. I know what you're thinking, AMAZING! Jon... say nothing.
 
Me

Re: [Mellotronists] Memotron demos now online

2005-08-26 by kinchmusic@aol.com

In a message dated 26/08/2005 02:58:45 GMT Daylight Time, lsf5275@...  
writes:

It is  JUST A SAMPLE PLAYER. That makes it a sample player of a sample 
player. It is  no better than playing samples back on my Triton Pro X. They sound 
great. But  my Mellotron is right there and it sounds so much more like a  
Mellotron.
Amen brother.
The main thing in it's defence is it's looks. An ipod version of the tron!  
Perhaps they should have called it the i-tron!
I can see it making appearances on various new wanabees pop vids.
As usual nowadays, it's a question of style over substance.
Andy K

Re: Memotron demos now online

2005-08-27 by charel196

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@a... wrote:
> It is JUST A SAMPLE PLAYER. That makes it a sample player of a 
sample  
> player. It is no better than playing samples back on my Triton Pro X. 
They sound  
> great. But my Mellotron is right there and it sounds so much more 
like a  
> Mellotron. I know what you're thinking, AMAZING! Jon... say nothing.
>  
> 
Me                                                                      
                                                                        
                                                                        
 I have an EMU E4K loaded with the Pinder CD but I can appreciate this 
unit as a DEDICATED tron replacement in a live rig,freeing up my 
sampler memory to do other things...same would apply to your Triton. 
The Pinder samples are large files and take awhile to load in the 
EMU.The Memotron would be instant sound gratification...with the 
switchable flash cards.

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