I've got it. I'll do both. Otherwise either the newbies or the veterans will be ornery : ) Scott Deyo The Bridechamber contact@... www.bridechamber.com On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:51 AM, James Elliott wrote: > +1 for option #2 > > -Jim > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Scott Deyo <contact@...> > To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:54:21 PM > Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] Bug panel -- decisions... > > Maybe the question should be: > Which of the following do you want? -- > 1) 2U panel that uses only the PCB circuit > 2) 5U panel that uses 2 PCBs plus user-built circuitry -- Child Tones > (Ring mods), Disturb CVs. > > I think one problem is that there is different usage of terms -- tone, > woggle, ring mod, child tones. I am confused! Even the schematics are > varied in their usage. > > The PCBs from Jan have the Ring Mod Out, which is the Ring Mod from > the > PLL. > > The two Child Tones are the Ring Modded Woggled Tones from two 'Bugs, > and the Ring Modded Smooth Tones from two 'Bugs. > To replicate these, it looks like a single XOR would do for each > channel, or the builder could use CGS RRMs, Yusynth ring mods, > 1496-based designs on protoboard, whatever. > > And for the Disturb Input, we could buffer an external CV, w/ that > jack > normalled to the internal stepped CV. I have a buffer PCB that would > work for this, or a Tellun MUUB-2 could be used for both channels. > Richard Brewster fades between two Disturb CVs, one of which is > normalled to the stepped CV, which would be nice. To replicate this we > would each have to do something on prototype, or make Tellun MUUB-4 > PCBs work. > > Richard, Grant, anyone: If we just use a buffer for a single Disturb > CV, normalled to the internal stepped CV, would negative CVs hurt the > PLL? > Richard, is that rectification for protection, or for better external > CV action? > > Feel free to correct me on any of the above. > > So you see why this is a big panel question: to mod or not to mod? If > to mod, in what ways? > > Option 3: > 2U 'Bug as per Jan's PCB. > 1U 'Bug buddy expansion panel for the dual buggers -- 2 Child Tone > Outs, Disturb CVs w/ attenuators. > > My head hurts. > Scott Deyo > The Bridechamber > contact@... > www.bridechamber.com > > On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Julian Ware wrote: > > > I would vote for a dual 'bug with a couple extra > > features > > > > including: > > > > Child Tone outputs > > Ring Modulated Output > > Disturb Input. > > > > I think this would be the about closest you could get > > to the functionality of the Wiard Wogglebug. > > > > Thanks, Julian > > > > >> Tone outputs > > --- Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for that! Very good advice, Paul. I'll change > > > that on the 'Bug. > > > I didn't even look at the PCB! > > > > > > Scott Deyo > > > The Bridechamber > > > contact@... > > > www.bridechamber.com > > > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:02 PM, krisp wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Scott and all > > > > That's almost the same as the panels I had made by > > > Schaeffer picture > > > > in the files somewhere > > > > I used on-on-on switches to get the 50%, EG and > > > LFO on one switch also > > > > used one of them on the LFO rate switch > > > > > > > > > > > > also I think the you should have the pots in this > > > order > > > > > > > > Rate > > > > Rate CV > > > > Cluster > > > > > > > > down the left hand side as they are in that order > > > on the PCB for easy > > > > mounting to the panel > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Paul Darlow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: Scott Deyo > > > >> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com > > > >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:15 PM > > > >> Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] sn voice and 'bug > > > proposed designs > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Hello Group, > > > >> > > > >> I have proposed designs in the files section, > > > under Bridechamber > > > >> Proposed Designs. > > > >> > > > >> There is a 3U SN Voice and a 2U Wogglebug. > > > >> Both are standard, no-mod designs. > > > >> > > > >> The only thing on the SN voice is we will use a > > > toggle for the range. > > > >> Center off will leave > > > >> one cap connected, up will connect a big cap in > > > parallel, and down > > > >> will connect a medium > > > >> cap in parallel. Much easier and less expensive > > > than a rotary. > > > >> Also, I used a switch to choose between LFO and > > > EG PWM and left off > > > >> the fixed. Is OK or > > > >> should be try to jam a rotary in there? Or an > > > attenuator? It will get > > > >> cramped... > > > >> > > > >> I haven't heard much about the 'Bug -- some want > > > dual 'Bugs w/ Child > > > >> Tone outputs, but > > > >> this would make it 4U. I can do that, but I need > > > to know what people > > > >> want. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> Scott > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > >
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Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Bug panel -- decisions...
2008-03-17 by Scott Deyo
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