The panel designs I'm working on won't be that cramped. They'll have the same jack size and spacing as MOTM. The space savings will come from using smaller knobs. I measured the vertical distance from the top mounting hole to the center of the first pot on the Encore UEG. Assuming I use a similarly small diameter pot, it turns out that I can fit eight rows of panel parts, spaced 1-inch apart, in the 5U high panel. The horizontal spacing is 7/8-inch. In other words it is the MOTM jack grid extended all the way to the top. I realized today that I can fit two CGS Slope Detector modules into a 1U panel with this approach. Richard poppaneedsanap wrote: > for me, half the point of me getting into 5U format and away from Euro was the appeal of large uncramped modules.. > to each his own though.. > > I do like the idea of an all CGS synth though! > -L > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote: > >> I uploaded a couple of FPD files that I designed today. The idea was >> instigated by a fantasy I had about building a CGS-only synthesizer, >> optimizing for panel space. I wanted to use the 5U by 1U MOTM panel >> size for compatibility with my cabinets. I thought about using small >> jacks like Blacet, but quickly realized that the panel space hog in MOTM >> format is the large knobs, and that I could still use 1/4 inch jacks. I >> started playing around with some small diameter Alpha pots and >> discovered that they fit in a matrix of 1-inch vertical separation by >> 7/8-inch horizontal separation (the same spacing as the jacks on a MOTM >> panel). This meant that the pots can line up directly above the jacks. >> The only thing sacrificed is tick marks. The same small Alco knob used >> in the Tellun and Encore panels fits here. Comparing the Tellun >> staggered pot spacing, I realized that it seems the main reason for >> staggering is to accommodate tick marks. Giving up tick marks allows a >> 1U MOTM panel to fit a combination of 6 pots and 8 jacks, or 8 pots and >> 6 jacks, with room for a couple of switches or LEDs in between. Using >> this format, I was able to pack a CGS 21 Super Psycho Modulation Source >> into a 1U panel. It has 8 pots, 7 toggle switches and 1 jack. (Looks a >> little tight at the bottom, but should work.) It's similar to the photo >> on the CGS site, but omitting two switches and the LEDs. LEDs might be >> squeezed in, too, but I'm not a really big fan of LEDs. I never built a >> Super Psycho Modulation source, because of all the panel real estate >> required in regular MOTM format. >> >> As a second example, I put a CGS 38 and CGS 52 both into 1U using this >> template. I made some others as well, such as a dual CGS 64 VCA and the >> CGS 77 Serge VCF. >> >> The jack placement in most of these designs can take the 3-Jack bracket >> from Bridechamber for mounting the PC boards. I haven't figured out yet >> how to mount the CGS 21 PC board on the panel with one jack. >> >> Richard Brewster >> http://pugix.com >> >> Sitting here under two feet of snow in central Virginia, USA. >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Re: Another take on small pots in MOTM format
2009-12-22 by Richard Brewster
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