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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Model 10

2007-04-30 by John

Yes, the Model 10 can catch you off guard when you first use it. It
behaves unlike any other EG I have ever used (which can be a good thing).
Basically you have to throw away and preconceptions you may have and just
try and dig the way the 10 does things. After I approached it like that it
was much easier to use/integrate into my set-up.

Regards,
John Langdon


On 4/29/07 11:53 AM, "jalmari3" <jari.jokinen@luukku.com> wrote:

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> Comments in line by Peter Grenader:
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> This module appears mystical for me.
> 
> First (my usual) complaint about the knobs: I would like the rise and
> fall controls to be more precise (less sensitive) near
> counterclockwise position. That would make it easier to set short
> times.
> 
> Also, in my unit, I have to set the rise control more clockwise than
> fall control, if equal times are desired. This asymmetry occurs even
> at full counterclockwise settings. In LFO mode I can get up to 800 Hz
> instead of 1000Hz. I wonder, if this is related.
> 
> PG:  You can change thwe distribution with the trim pot on the board.
> 
> Maximum rise and fall times are under 2 minutes. Not 5 minutes (or 20
> minutes combined, when timebase is at max) as expected.
> 
> PG: Again, adjust the trim pot on the board. - and add ad VC to the input with
> the attrenuator full CCW.
> 
> - Rise and fall knobs at max => timebase knob has no effect
> 
> PG:  When the RISE/FALL is at full CCW< the cap is at it's maximum charge
> time.
> 
> - Timebase knob at max => rise and fall knobs have no effect
> 
> PG:  Please check this again.  WHat you're syaing here is impossible by virtue
> of the ciruit.  These controls are summed together along with the VC Input.
> If the voltages in the summingnode dectrease, the charge time of the cap in
> the integratot which causes the envelope decreases and the enevelope time wil
> decrease.
> 
> - Timebase knob can stretch (or shrink) the envelope by a factor much
> greater than 8. (Figure of 8 is mentioned on Plan B site.)
> 
> PG:  baes on the combination fothe rise/fall, timebase and VC stimulus, yes it
> can.  See my note above on maximum charge time.
> 
> At /\out the envelope or LFO waveform makes a "jump" at the start and
> at the end of attack. This gets pronounced and the waveform badly
> distorted, if the level knob is set near 12 o'clock.
> 
> PG:  it operates like the Moog ADSR in that respect, yes.
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> I haven't yet much used the vc_tb control, as I get very unexpected
> results. What voltage range is expected at the input? Is the vc_tb
> knob a bipolar attenuator?
> 
> PG: Yes it is.
> 
> The above shouldn't be taken as a (negative) review. This module is
> just confusing! - Quoting the man himself: "...but the fact that I've
> not got off my ass and composed manuals for these instruments, which
> is criminal. I really need to do that."
> 
> PG: No worries, thanks for you input?
> 
> Best regards
> Jari Jokinen
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