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i'm really depressed now. while waiting for my model 15's,
i bought five other vco's to lighten up my days.

a bit of information would help. please don't make the same
mistake as others (reminds me of the psim already).

best wishes

ingo



--- Scott Pfeifer <scott@bigsynth.com> schrieb:
> Peter,
> 
> Your last email you said you going to send me the tracking # and your
> date
> on your computer was wrong that's why you didn't get back to me
> sooner. Well
> it's a week again and no VCO or tracking #. I'm really getting bored
> emailing you every week for my fully paid VCO from the beginning of
> April
> and deposit from the beginning announcement. What's the problem? 
> 
> Getting a little pissed now!
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Pfeifer [mailto:scott@bigsynth.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 09:27 AM
> To: 'PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: Peter Where is my model 15?
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Sorry to post here but I never received a response from my email sent
> 5/6/2005.
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 07:04 AM
> To: 'peter@buzzclick-music.com'
> Subject: RE: Plan B VCO
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> From the last email dated 4/20 you sent me, It seemed that you were
> going to
> send out my VCO on 4/22. I still did not receive it. Do you have a
> tracking
> # for it?
> 
> Scott 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Grenader [mailto:peter@buzzclick-music.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 09:33 AM
> To: Scott Pfeifer
> Subject: Re: Plan B VCO
> 
> Hey Scott -
> 
> I was worried that I didn't have your email address as the first
> letters I
> sent to you bounced back.  Not hearing form you until the money was
> sent,
> your original unit shipped to another person, but you will be
> shipping this
> week, probably by Friday.  I didn't know where to get to you and
> because I
> didn't hear back, I felt that this was the best thing to do. It was
> fine
> that you held off paying, no worries at all - but in that I had no
> way of
> reaching you, I really didn't know what to do.  I should have written
> when I
> got the cash and I'm sorry, but there is a lot going on at the
> 'factory'
> right now between building, troubleshooting, shipping.  Anyway, it's
> going
> into burn in by about lunch as soon as I get two tother fixed up and
> ready
> to go in there with yours.
> 
> - P
>  
> 
> 

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People,.

One person.  I've been living these things now for six weeks..  I'm late,
but I'm doing the only thing I can to complete these. On top of that, I've
had units destroyed in shipping, disappeared in shipping and some returns
that I've had to turn immediatelym but I'm doing everything I can to
complete this run and yeah, there are plenty of placed where you will get
faster turnaround in the meantime  I understand people are getting
frustrated and I'm generally sorry about that, but for the life of me
there's nothing else I can do.

If anyone would like a refund, let me know - offline, please.

- P





Ingo Zobel wrote:

> 
> i'm really depressed now. while waiting for my model 15's,
> i bought five other vco's to lighten up my days.
> 
> a bit of information would help. please don't make the same
> mistake as others (reminds me of the psim already).
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- Scott Pfeifer <scott@bigsynth.com> schrieb:
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Your last email you said you going to send me the tracking # and your
>> date
>> on your computer was wrong that's why you didn't get back to me
>> sooner. Well
>> it's a week again and no VCO or tracking #. I'm really getting bored
>> emailing you every week for my fully paid VCO from the beginning of
>> April
>> and deposit from the beginning announcement. What's the problem?
>> 
>> Getting a little pissed now!
>> Scott
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Pfeifer [mailto:scott@bigsynth.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 09:27 AM
>> To: 'PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com'
>> Subject: Peter Where is my model 15?
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Sorry to post here but I never received a response from my email sent
>> 5/6/2005.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 07:04 AM
>> To: 'peter@buzzclick-music.com'
>> Subject: RE: Plan B VCO
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> From the last email dated 4/20 you sent me, It seemed that you were
>> going to
>> send out my VCO on 4/22. I still did not receive it. Do you have a
>> tracking
>> # for it?
>> 
>> Scott 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Grenader [mailto:peter@buzzclick-music.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 09:33 AM
>> To: Scott Pfeifer
>> Subject: Re: Plan B VCO
>> 
>> Hey Scott -
>> 
>> I was worried that I didn't have your email address as the first
>> letters I
>> sent to you bounced back.  Not hearing form you until the money was
>> sent,
>> your original unit shipped to another person, but you will be
>> shipping this
>> week, probably by Friday.  I didn't know where to get to you and
>> because I
>> didn't hear back, I felt that this was the best thing to do. It was
>> fine
>> that you held off paying, no worries at all - but in that I had no
>> way of
>> reaching you, I really didn't know what to do.  I should have written
>> when I
>> got the cash and I'm sorry, but there is a lot going on at the
>> 'factory'
>> right now between building, troubleshooting, shipping.  Anyway, it's
>> going
>> into burn in by about lunch as soon as I get two tother fixed up and
>> ready
>> to go in there with yours.
>> 
>> - P
>> 
>> 
>> 
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peter,

no, we don't want a refund, all we want is information,
no matter if online or offline. it seems that the only
way to get information is to say something unpleasant.
and i'm sorry every time, you can be sure about that.

please don't miss the point.
we all (assumably) still want your marvelous designs.
and i personally will happily buy all the stuff which
comes off of your workbench.

one single email to the forum with a small note about
the actual status would be enough, and that takes probably
10 minutes of your time, not more. thats all i'm asking for.

best wishes

ingo



--- Peter Grenader <peter@buzzclick-music.com> schrieb:

> People,.
> 
> One person.  I've been living these things now for six weeks..  I'm
> late,
> but I'm doing the only thing I can to complete these. On top of that,
> I've
> had units destroyed in shipping, disappeared in shipping and some
> returns
> that I've had to turn immediatelym but I'm doing everything I can to
> complete this run and yeah, there are plenty of placed where you will
> get
> faster turnaround in the meantime  I understand people are getting
> frustrated and I'm generally sorry about that, but for the life of me
> there's nothing else I can do.
> 
> If anyone would like a refund, let me know - offline, please.
> 
> - P
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ingo Zobel wrote:
> 
> > 
> > i'm really depressed now. while waiting for my model 15's,
> > i bought five other vco's to lighten up my days.
> > 
> > a bit of information would help. please don't make the same
> > mistake as others (reminds me of the psim already).
> > 
> > best wishes
> > 
> > ingo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Scott Pfeifer <scott@bigsynth.com> schrieb:
> >> Peter,
> >> 
> >> Your last email you said you going to send me the tracking # and
> your
> >> date
> >> on your computer was wrong that's why you didn't get back to me
> >> sooner. Well
> >> it's a week again and no VCO or tracking #. I'm really getting
> bored
> >> emailing you every week for my fully paid VCO from the beginning
> of
> >> April
> >> and deposit from the beginning announcement. What's the problem?
> >> 
> >> Getting a little pissed now!
> >> Scott
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Pfeifer [mailto:scott@bigsynth.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 09:27 AM
> >> To: 'PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com'
> >> Subject: Peter Where is my model 15?
> >> 
> >> Peter,
> >> 
> >> Sorry to post here but I never received a response from my email
> sent
> >> 5/6/2005.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 07:04 AM
> >> To: 'peter@buzzclick-music.com'
> >> Subject: RE: Plan B VCO
> >> 
> >> Hi Peter,
> >> 
> >> From the last email dated 4/20 you sent me, It seemed that you
> were
> >> going to
> >> send out my VCO on 4/22. I still did not receive it. Do you have a
> >> tracking
> >> # for it?
> >> 
> >> Scott 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Peter Grenader [mailto:peter@buzzclick-music.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 09:33 AM
> >> To: Scott Pfeifer
> >> Subject: Re: Plan B VCO
> >> 
> >> Hey Scott -
> >> 
> >> I was worried that I didn't have your email address as the first
> >> letters I
> >> sent to you bounced back.  Not hearing form you until the money
> was
> >> sent,
> >> your original unit shipped to another person, but you will be
> >> shipping this
> >> week, probably by Friday.  I didn't know where to get to you and
> >> because I
> >> didn't hear back, I felt that this was the best thing to do. It
> was
> >> fine
> >> that you held off paying, no worries at all - but in that I had no
> >> way of
> >> reaching you, I really didn't know what to do.  I should have
> written
> >> when I
> >> got the cash and I'm sorry, but there is a lot going on at the
> >> 'factory'
> >> right now between building, troubleshooting, shipping.  Anyway,
> it's
> >> going
> >> into burn in by about lunch as soon as I get two tother fixed up
> and
> >> ready
> >> to go in there with yours.
> >> 
> >> - P
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > http://www.dron.de
> > http://www.selfoscillate.de
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Everyone,

I'd be happy to post updates - but they're all gonna say the same thing -
they're shipping.  So instead of sounding like a broken record or worse -
someone slinging a bunch of bullshit what I try to do is the 'respond with
results' tact by...shipping.

Some have asked that I post specific shipment records and I can't do this.
But what I can, and will do from now on is send my phone number with the
shipment notices so that you may contact me immediately with questions.

One thing I think may need some clarification.  When you receive you're 10
days to ship notice - this means 10 work days. As far as delivery, add
shipping time to these ten days.

After this lot is completed there will be a small number of EVENT TIMERS
going to Big City Music.  After that, I'd like to complete a three module
output mixer set,  and have also worked on a Voltage OR gate/positive
inverter module.  I've also had discussions and meetings with someone much
more brilliant than I about getting up to speed on Basic Stamp programming
to begin producing digital control voltage modules - a complex envelope
generator and an eight channel DC sampler for replaying stored EGs either in
parallel or serially (combined complex envelopes)

But what I can't afford to put people through again is accepting orders
during the development process.  So these units mentioned about will not be
formally announced until they are at BCM ready for shipment.  I'd like to
continue with more ideas, but it's really hard to get off the ground
financially in an operation like this.  I'm looking into possibilities of
partnerships - maybe something will come of that.  I've got some interesting
ideas I think - but ideas don't pay the light bills unless you can ship
them!

thank yo ueveryone for your patience.

- P

Ingo Zobel wrote:

> peter,
> 
> no, we don't want a refund, all we want is information,
> no matter if online or offline. it seems that the only
> way to get information is to say something unpleasant.
> and i'm sorry every time, you can be sure about that.
> 
> please don't miss the point.
> we all (assumably) still want your marvelous designs.
> and i personally will happily buy all the stuff which
> comes off of your workbench.
> 
> one single email to the forum with a small note about
> the actual status would be enough, and that takes probably
> 10 minutes of your time, not more. thats all i'm asking for.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- Peter Grenader <peter@buzzclick-music.com> schrieb:
> 
>> People,.
>> 
>> One person.  I've been living these things now for six weeks..  I'm
>> late,
>> but I'm doing the only thing I can to complete these. On top of that,
>> I've
>> had units destroyed in shipping, disappeared in shipping and some
>> returns
>> that I've had to turn immediatelym but I'm doing everything I can to
>> complete this run and yeah, there are plenty of placed where you will
>> get
>> faster turnaround in the meantime  I understand people are getting
>> frustrated and I'm generally sorry about that, but for the life of me
>> there's nothing else I can do.
>> 
>> If anyone would like a refund, let me know - offline, please.
>> 
>> - P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ingo Zobel wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> i'm really depressed now. while waiting for my model 15's,
>>> i bought five other vco's to lighten up my days.
>>> 
>>> a bit of information would help. please don't make the same
>>> mistake as others (reminds me of the psim already).
>>> 
>>> best wishes
>>> 
>>> ingo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Scott Pfeifer <scott@bigsynth.com> schrieb:
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Your last email you said you going to send me the tracking # and
>> your
>>>> date
>>>> on your computer was wrong that's why you didn't get back to me
>>>> sooner. Well
>>>> it's a week again and no VCO or tracking #. I'm really getting
>> bored
>>>> emailing you every week for my fully paid VCO from the beginning
>> of
>>>> April
>>>> and deposit from the beginning announcement. What's the problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Getting a little pissed now!
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Scott Pfeifer [mailto:scott@bigsynth.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 09:27 AM
>>>> To: 'PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com'
>>>> Subject: Peter Where is my model 15?
>>>> 
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry to post here but I never received a response from my email
>> sent
>>>> 5/6/2005.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 07:04 AM
>>>> To: 'peter@buzzclick-music.com'
>>>> Subject: RE: Plan B VCO
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> From the last email dated 4/20 you sent me, It seemed that you
>> were
>>>> going to
>>>> send out my VCO on 4/22. I still did not receive it. Do you have a
>>>> tracking
>>>> # for it?
>>>> 
>>>> Scott 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Peter Grenader [mailto:peter@buzzclick-music.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 09:33 AM
>>>> To: Scott Pfeifer
>>>> Subject: Re: Plan B VCO
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Scott -
>>>> 
>>>> I was worried that I didn't have your email address as the first
>>>> letters I
>>>> sent to you bounced back.  Not hearing form you until the money
>> was
>>>> sent,
>>>> your original unit shipped to another person, but you will be
>>>> shipping this
>>>> week, probably by Friday.  I didn't know where to get to you and
>>>> because I
>>>> didn't hear back, I felt that this was the best thing to do. It
>> was
>>>> fine
>>>> that you held off paying, no worries at all - but in that I had no
>>>> way of
>>>> reaching you, I really didn't know what to do.  I should have
>> written
>>>> when I
>>>> got the cash and I'm sorry, but there is a lot going on at the
>>>> 'factory'
>>>> right now between building, troubleshooting, shipping.  Anyway,
>> it's
>>>> going
>>>> into burn in by about lunch as soon as I get two tother fixed up
>> and
>>>> ready
>>>> to go in there with yours.
>>>> 
>>>> - P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.dron.de
>>> http://www.selfoscillate.de
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Peter Grenader said:
> I'd be happy to post updates - but they're all gonna say the same thing -
> they're shipping.  So instead of sounding like a broken record or worse -
> someone slinging a bunch of bullshit what I try to do is the 'respond with
> results' tact by...shipping.

I can understand this for those who are still waiting to put down the
second 50%, "they're shipping, I'm cranking them out as fast as I can" is
as good a response as they can get. There's too many people there to do
otherwise. But...

> One thing I think may need some clarification.  When you receive you're 10
> days to ship notice - this means 10 work days. As far as delivery, add
> shipping time to these ten days.

As with a previous poster, I've paid my modules up 100% (as of April 25th,
so that's over 10 work days) and have yet to recieve a ship notice. I
didn't post here or bother you because I know it's coming as fast as it
can, and I'm in no hurry on the matter, but I can see where someone in
this position would be annoyed. For those paid up and waiting longer than
the 10 work days, I think it's good business to shoot them a weekly email
as to how many modules are ahead of theirs and what other non-model15 (ie
custom work or what have you) before they can be shipped. Specifics on
customers not needed, but it could help people feel better about the delay
if they know the other tasks that are delaying the process.

Again, I don't want a refund, and I really don't care much about all this,
but it makes sense to me.

> After this lot is completed there will be a small number of EVENT TIMERS
> going to Big City Music.  After that, I'd like to complete a three module
> output mixer set,  and have also worked on a Voltage OR gate/positive
> inverter module.  I've also had discussions and meetings with someone much
> more brilliant than I about getting up to speed on Basic Stamp programming
> to begin producing digital control voltage modules - a complex envelope
> generator and an eight channel DC sampler for replaying stored EGs either
> in
> parallel or serially (combined complex envelopes)

Sounds like an interesting crop of modules, especially that stored EG
module...

> But what I can't afford to put people through again is accepting orders
> during the development process.  So these units mentioned about will not
> be
> formally announced until they are at BCM ready for shipment.

Makes sense. My company learned this lesson the hard way with the original
Oasys keyboard (which never shipped). Simply put, don't announce something
unless you're sure you can be shipping in six months. For the small
boutique guys I'd go even further and say they shouldn't announce until
the product is ready to go.

-Brandon
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