QTR-Quadtone RIP

Thanks for posting this, Nick.  It is really useful for someone starting out with the printing tool.  I wonder if there is a way to put a cop in the files section here.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "nmenghardt" <nicholae@...> wrote:
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> Eric, JP, and J Riley,
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> Sorry this has been a long time coming - final projects and exams are almost due for the students in our programs so assisting with printing and technical issues has taken most of my time, however I've been able to put together a quick "How To" with the print-tool.  The link so to our internal wiki that we've set up for the students.  The wiki is basically a digital version of our instruction manual we give to students for all the various applications and hardware that they use including instructions on printing and profiling papers.
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> Feel free to browse the different sections but keep in mind some are still outdated as we're constantly updating software (specifically the QTR section on building curves still shows how to use profile maker 5 rather than colorport).
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> http://digi.stedwards.edu/wiki/index.php/QTR-Print-Tool
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> The wiki article on the print tool covers several different workflows from basic work prints to final prints using paper profiles and using QuadTone RIP for grayscale output.
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> As far as re-profiling monitors, you shouldn't have to if you're using the correct settings - 120 cd/m2 for LCD monitors.  This change in luminance might be an adjustment for some photographers, but you should start to see closer output values in your shadows.  Using a too-bright monitor can result in dull and even nearly gray blacks.
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> If you'd like to shoot me direct questions, my email is nicholae at stedwards dot edu
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> Cheers and I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.
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> Nick Enghardt
> St. Edward's University Advanced Imaging Lab Manager
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jespes2" <jesse.pesta@> wrote:
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> > Eric and Nick,
> > Thank you  very much for your replies. Bought the Print Tool this a.m. and will do some experimenting.  Please count me with JRS--any tips for Print Tool color noobs welcome over here too.
> > Thanks again and best, JP
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> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Jim Stewart <8jstewart@> wrote:
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> > > Nick, can you provide a quick primer for those of us who got as far as JP and said after printing color with the Print Tool ".. well, that didn't work?"
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> > > If we use the QTR Print Tool for color, must we re-profile all our papers using that particular workflow? Or is it a matter of setting a button or two in the Print Tool config screen? I use ColorMunki to profile my papers, and it bypasses any Adobe/Apple/Photoshop configurations when generating the profile (I assume). Still, when I print from either PS or Lightroom, the prints look right on so long as I use the Colormunki-generated profile. When I tried Print Tool using the same profile, colors were way off.
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> > > Thanks,
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> > > J Riley Stewart
> > > www.jrileystewart.com
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> > > On Nov 11, 2012, at 10:53 AM, nmenghardt wrote:
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> > > > JP,
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> > > > As Eric said, you can use the print tool to print color prints and utilize paper profiles to match colors much more closely.
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> > > > The reason he mentioned that his prints coming from the print tool are much lighter is because the print tool is completely circumventing an issue that apple and adobe have created with color management - when printing with photoshop on OSX 10.6.x or newer, your images are still being color managed twice, so the printer is being told to lay down more ink than is necessary.
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> > > > I've done extensive testing in our lab comparing the print tool to printer color management, photoshop color management, and colorburst rip with both color and black and white output and using QTR Curves in the print tool. 
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> > > > The print tool and colorburst rip are instructing the printer on how much ink to lay down correctly because they are overriding Apple's ColorSync correctly, photoshop does not do this anymore.
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> > > > Roy will be able to speak more knowledgeably on how this works (it's still too early in the morning after shooting a wedding for me). 
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> > > > After all the testing was done, I don't even use Photoshop to print anymore - I output all color and black and white prints through the print tool, and this is a workflow that is being added to our advanced printing class.
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> > > > Nick Enghardt
> > > > St. Edward's University Advanced Imaging Lab Manager
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> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jespes2" <jesse.pesta@> wrote:
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> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I'm a happy QTR licensee on a Mac for many years, currently using Epson 3800 and 7800. I've never printed color until now and I am having terrible trouble. Strongly suspect it's the "double profiling" problem or whatever it's officially called, where color management gets applied twice--once by Photoshop, again by printer. The prints come out extremely dark/muddy and colors way off.
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> > > > > Here is my question: Is it possible to print color images to the 3800 and 7800 with the QTR Print Tool and is this a way to avoid the double-color-management problem on color images? If so, is there a recommended procedure?
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> > > > > Mac 10.7.5 (Lion) Photoshop CS6
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> > > > > Relatedly: If anyone can point me to a for-dummies guide to fixing double-color-management, I will be forever grateful. I've tried various recipes but can't get a procedure that actually works. Probably missing a simple step; can't for life of me spot what it is. Much paper and time wasted so far,etc.
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> > > > > Many thanks in advance , best regards,
> > > > > JP
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