Thanks Roy. You are exactly on the problem I have. In the Lightroom print module, one can choose a custom size for the resulting jpeg. I use a size a bit smaller than the print area on the target paper size and tell QTRGui to print centered. Happy new year to all! --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote: > > I've done some looking into this whole jpeg issue. The whole thing is a bit > complicated but I think I understand some of it now. > > Originally there was a simple jpeg compression file that did not have > resolution information -- it just compressed the image data. Soon after > a header called JFIF was added with some more info -- specifically > the resolution. Most older programs used this for a long time. More recently > a more general approach was started -- called EXIF data which most people > recognize from camera data. The file extension .jpg and .jpeg are now used > for all these different formats. So different programs write out > different headers > -- in fact Lightroom seems to use one for export and a different one for print. > (QTR is not the only program affected: see > http://forums.adobe.com/message/2977973 > if you want to see an unending discussion) > > QTR on the PC has two distinct parts the QTRgui which is written in a high level > language with file reading builtin and a low level part which actually > writes to the > printer. So QTRgui understands some more formats than the low level driver. > The driver uses open source libraries for reading files and the jpeg > library does not > look at or understand the EXIF version of the header --only the JFIF version. > This is the main cause of the print size problems. Whether this can be easily > resolved is still unknown. > > Another thing to consider is that in Lightroom the export and print > modules have > pretty different concepts in mind. The export is pretty > straightforward -- it simply > exports just images -- conversions and formats are always one image at a time. > The print module on the other hand is a page formatting function. > When you print to > jpeg file you are formatting an entire page and outputting that full > page as a jpeg. > It can contain multiple images and most important includes all the borders and > margins. So taking this formatted page and putting it into QTRgui which also > does page formatting is possible but needs careful thought of what's happening. > In particular LR formatting a 8.5x11 sheet will output an 8.5x11 jpg. > But reading > this into QTRgui for printing on 8.5x11 paper is a problem because of > the margins. > Typically the largest image is 8.25x10.75 on most Epson printers > (non-borderless). > > Needless to say there are a lot of considerations here. I'll try to > find a workflow > that accommodates this. > > Thanks, > Roy > > BTW, there's a little confusion of terminology here. QTRgui is a > program only on > the PC and Print-Tool is Mac only. I think QTRgui is being mentioned on the Mac > but I think its really referring to the print dialog page. > Roy Harrington > roy@... > www.harrington.com >
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Re: LightRoom 4.3 print module and JPEG dimensions in QTR Gui
2013-01-01 by stephane_bosman
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