You can profile the OEM dyes (also available in Noritsu large format packaging, dilution with generic base) as cold as you like, but profiling a color inkset is much harder than a dedicated B&W inkset. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-BW.pdf . The MIS B&W inksets were intentionally made to have only low gamut inks in them so that profiling would be easier.
If you want MIS carbon plus toners, another option is to use color LM and LC, with 4 levels of carbon. Put the 4 carbons in the "gray" partition and have the toners be just that -- toners 1 and 2 in QTR. I used an Epson 4000 set up similarly for a while. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/4000-6K-Plus.pdf . There are several dye-based setups that are somewhat similar also on my web pages.
The inks are out there, but with a custom inkset, you do need to be comfortable with doing your own profiles.
Paul
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:40 AM, pprocter@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Even when using the colder toned MIS inks (on a dedicated Epson 1400) I still am not capable of getting the ice cold tones I could get with the old Ilfobrome paper. I've tried several different papers from Red River Arctic Satin, San Gabriel Semigloss, Ilford Gold Mono and various other Epson and Hahnemulle papers. Some have a very stark white tone but the MIS ink still runs to warmish.
Anybody have a comparison to other ink sets or adding some blue ink (which ones would be compatible?)