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Re: New Member: QTR Help...

2005-11-21 by cteditions

Thank you Roy,

I will get started on getting all this set up.  It seems pretty straight forward but different 
than how I am use to working in OSX (hence ALL of the questions).  By the way, in your 
reply you stated "You should have anything  in the Proof boxes".  I am guessing you meant 
that I should NOT have anything in the Proof boxes.. is this correct?

And, can you answer the one question regarding what your experience has been with 
different papers.  What have you found gives you the greatest Dmax, Dmin, and tonal 
range for a rag, semi-gloss, and gloss substrate?

Thanks again Roy,

Cody Thomas

> > 1.  After building profiles I am use to going through Print With Preview in 
PhotoshopCS2 
> in 
> > order to make sure my Color Management is set correctly and this is where I 
"normally" 
> > choose my profile to print with.  So, when using QTR is it still advised to go through 
> Print 
> > With Preview?  If not, what should this dialog be set to?  My Working Space is Adobe 
RGB 
> > (1998) and when I choose "Quad_2400" as my printer I have the following 
information:
> > 	
> > Under Color Management:
> > 
> > Document is chosen with Adobe RGB (1998) listed
> > Color Handling: set to "Let Printer Determine Colors"
> 
> Use, Let Photoshop Determine Colors.
> 
> > Printer Profile: this is "grayed out" due to above handling choice
> 
> Use, either Gray Matte Paper or Gray Photo Paper.
> 
> > Rendering Intent: Relative Colorimetric
> 
> Usually its Perceptual and BPC.
> 
> > Proof Setup Preset: this is "grayed out" with "Working CMYK" listed
> > Other Boxes: all "grayed out"
> 
> You should have anything in the Proof boxes.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 2.  Once in the Print Dialog I notice that there is a difference in what is listed under 
the 
> > main "Features" drop-down menu.  When my "Quad_2400" printer is chosen I do not 
see 
> > the choices for Color Management, Ink Configuration, and Extension Settings.  And 
the 
> > dialog box titled "Print Features" does not give me the choices that "Print Settings" 
> > normally gives (when Epson printer is chosen).  With QTR I am only able to choose my 
> > Media Type and my Dither Algorithm. I do have the additional QuadTone RIP dialog to 
> > choose; where I have some more choices such as Resolution, Gamma, Speed, etc. but 
no 
> > Color Management Dialog.  Why?  How should Photoshop CS2 be set for QTR optimum 
> > output?
> 
> Color Management was all setup in the Print Preview page (Print Space = Gray Matte).
> The only dialog pane you will probably use is the QTR one.  In general you'll just
> use the Curves, Blend, Res=1440.  Leave the other default until there's a specific
> need to adjust.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 3.  The Curves drop-down menu within the QuadTone RIP Dialog only shows me the 
> > UCmk-EnhMatte (Cool-Warm) and the UCpk-IlfordSmPearl (Neutral-Warm).  So, for 
any 
> > additional Curves I will have to make my own correct?  Does the UCmk-EnhMatte work 
> well 
> > with Hahnemuele Paper?  What paper have you had best success with regarding 
Dmax, 
> > Dmin, and tonal range?
> 
> At this point just use the set of profiles that match the paper/ink type.  So use the
> EnhMatte for PhotoRag.  The Ink Limit Adj is the one option you might try for Photo Rag.
> It'll increase the amount of ink.
> 
> > 
> > Sorry for the lengthy post but I believe things are working out but this QTR is simply 
> > different than how I have Color Managed and created Profiles in the past.  I use the 
GMB 
> > Eye-One System for making profiles with i1Match and have a Sony Artisan GDM-
C520K 
> > 21" Monitor (self calibrating).
> 
> With QTR there are really two levels of profiles/curves.  The QTR curves in the QTR
> dialog pane are different from anything else.   ICC Color management profiles are
> similar to the color ones you are used to.  There are the Gray Matte Paper and Gray
> Photo Paper ones that you select in Print Preview.  They are "generic" icc profiles, but
> you can later on create custom ones with your Eye-One and QTR-Create-ICC that
> you will find in the CurveDesign/Eye-One folder of the download.  This program does
> the samething as i1Match but for grayscale.
> 
> Roy

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