QTR-Quadtone RIP

On Monday, November 21, 2005, at 01:42  PM, cteditions wrote:

> Thank you Roy,
>
> I will get started on getting all this set up.  It seems pretty 
> straight forward but different
> than how I am use to working in OSX (hence ALL of the questions).  By 
> the way, in your
> reply you stated "You should have anything  in the Proof boxes".  I am 
> guessing you meant
> that I should NOT have anything in the Proof boxes.. is this correct?

Yes, that's correct --  the fingers don't keep up some times.

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> And, can you answer the one question regarding what your experience 
> has been with
> different papers.  What have you found gives you the greatest Dmax, 
> Dmin, and tonal
> range for a rag, semi-gloss, and gloss substrate?

Personally I like fine art rag paper best -- H. Photo Rag mostly.  Some 
others are very close too.
Never liked the gloss/photo papers but I think the Luster's or 
SemiMatte are closest.

Roy

>
> Thanks again Roy,
>
> Cody Thomas
>
>>> 1.  After building profiles I am use to going through Print With 
>>> Preview in
> PhotoshopCS2
>> in
>>> order to make sure my Color Management is set correctly and this is 
>>> where I
> "normally"
>>> choose my profile to print with.  So, when using QTR is it still 
>>> advised to go through
>> Print
>>> With Preview?  If not, what should this dialog be set to?  My 
>>> Working Space is Adobe
> RGB
>>> (1998) and when I choose "Quad_2400" as my printer I have the 
>>> following
> information:
>>> 	
>>> Under Color Management:
>>>
>>> Document is chosen with Adobe RGB (1998) listed
>>> Color Handling: set to "Let Printer Determine Colors"
>>
>> Use, Let Photoshop Determine Colors.
>>
>>> Printer Profile: this is "grayed out" due to above handling choice
>>
>> Use, either Gray Matte Paper or Gray Photo Paper.
>>
>>> Rendering Intent: Relative Colorimetric
>>
>> Usually its Perceptual and BPC.
>>
>>> Proof Setup Preset: this is "grayed out" with "Working CMYK" listed
>>> Other Boxes: all "grayed out"
>>
>> You should have anything in the Proof boxes.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.  Once in the Print Dialog I notice that there is a difference in 
>>> what is listed under
> the
>>> main "Features" drop-down menu.  When my "Quad_2400" printer is 
>>> chosen I do not
> see
>>> the choices for Color Management, Ink Configuration, and Extension 
>>> Settings.  And
> the
>>> dialog box titled "Print Features" does not give me the choices that 
>>> "Print Settings"
>>> normally gives (when Epson printer is chosen).  With QTR I am only 
>>> able to choose my
>>> Media Type and my Dither Algorithm. I do have the additional 
>>> QuadTone RIP dialog to
>>> choose; where I have some more choices such as Resolution, Gamma, 
>>> Speed, etc. but
> no
>>> Color Management Dialog.  Why?  How should Photoshop CS2 be set for 
>>> QTR optimum
>>> output?
>>
>> Color Management was all setup in the Print Preview page (Print Space 
>> = Gray Matte).
>> The only dialog pane you will probably use is the QTR one.  In 
>> general you'll just
>> use the Curves, Blend, Res=1440.  Leave the other default until 
>> there's a specific
>> need to adjust.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.  The Curves drop-down menu within the QuadTone RIP Dialog only 
>>> shows me the
>>> UCmk-EnhMatte (Cool-Warm) and the UCpk-IlfordSmPearl (Neutral-Warm). 
>>>  So, for
> any
>>> additional Curves I will have to make my own correct?  Does the 
>>> UCmk-EnhMatte work
>> well
>>> with Hahnemuele Paper?  What paper have you had best success with 
>>> regarding
> Dmax,
>>> Dmin, and tonal range?
>>
>> At this point just use the set of profiles that match the paper/ink 
>> type.  So use the
>> EnhMatte for PhotoRag.  The Ink Limit Adj is the one option you might 
>> try for Photo Rag.
>> It'll increase the amount of ink.
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for the lengthy post but I believe things are working out but 
>>> this QTR is simply
>>> different than how I have Color Managed and created Profiles in the 
>>> past.  I use the
> GMB
>>> Eye-One System for making profiles with i1Match and have a Sony 
>>> Artisan GDM-
> C520K
>>> 21" Monitor (self calibrating).
>>
>> With QTR there are really two levels of profiles/curves.  The QTR 
>> curves in the QTR
>> dialog pane are different from anything else.   ICC Color management 
>> profiles are
>> similar to the color ones you are used to.  There are the Gray Matte 
>> Paper and Gray
>> Photo Paper ones that you select in Print Preview.  They are 
>> "generic" icc profiles, but
>> you can later on create custom ones with your Eye-One and 
>> QTR-Create-ICC that
>> you will find in the CurveDesign/Eye-One folder of the download.  
>> This program does
>> the samething as i1Match but for grayscale.
>>
>> Roy
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