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Re: Prints too dark from QTR, what next?

2018-11-30 by brian_downunda@...

If there's a blank reply, my apologies. Operator error. Perhaps the mods could delete.

If you don't use the linear workflow and instead print using an ICC then my understanding is that you can soft-proof in LR as long as you use an RGB ICC. Preserve numbers is PS-only.

Is LR suboptimal for the linear workflow? Yes and no. You won't be able to take the image all the way to the final print version, at least not on matte papers. You may find it close enough for PK papers. But editing for screen display and editing for print are different things anyway under the linear workflow, and it's helpful to think of it as a two stage process.

Simulate black in and paper colour? They seem to make the biggest difference on matte papers and I find them difficult to adjust to TBH, as the shadows tend to look murkier than they do to in a print. The idea is that you need to look at them for some time to get over this effect. What I do is make judgements by assessing the print with them both on and off, since off can mislead slightly you as to how a matte print will look, but on is too strong a simulation. I don't find that they make so much difference for PK papers, or at least not the simulate black ink option. But this is just my opinion, and I imagine everyone has one. You need to find what works for you.

p.s. This is where a screen where you can calibrate the screen to simulate the paper is a big advantage, like and Eizo or NEC, as we discussed earlier.


---In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, <per@...> wrote :

Totally makes sense. However, I am a more fluent editor in LR, so I am still wondering if the lack of "preserve RGB numbers" make softproofing in LR inherently suboptimal and that I should just stay away from it altogether or not. I can certainly stick to a flow where all fine tuning for print happens in PS if needed, but if I can stay in LR that would be a little nicer.

Also, I am curious about the settings in PS softproofing that people get the best results from when using a QTR ICC profile. Simulate paper color? If not, then simulate black ink?

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