No, I'm not suggesting that you set your QTR-generated ICC for the monitor. There is a long reason why not not. Simplest just to say no. What we are saying is that on a monitor like an Eizo Coloredge or NEC
Colorsync, where the calibration is directly adjusting the monitor itself, you can adjust the monitor to closely match the properties of the paper in question - brightness, contrast, white-point. There's still the issue that the monitor is back-lit and the paper is front-lit, but you can get fairly close.
We're not familiar with your monitor and I'm not suggesting that it isn't good quality, but we're sceptical that you can adjust it so that it comes close to doing this. Thinking this through, once you've got this close match then the simulate paper colour and black ink options probably aren't really necessary and may be doubling-up the effect of the monitor calibration, hence why it looks so murky to me. If Walker is still lurking perhaps he could comment.
In relation to Mick's comment, pasted in below, there is a technique promoted by local guru Les Walkling in which he shows you how to take your Eizo monitor (he is an ambassador for Eizo) and refine the calibration to get an exact match for your viewing conditions. Les, uses the term "standard" viewing conditions, and that's the point that Mick is effectively making. If you want to perform this technique you need to have realistic / standard print viewing conditions. There's a video here, but be warned that it's Eizo specific:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thyeyop4x6yv7us/Advanced_Soft_Proofing_with_EIZO_CE_Monitors.mp4.zip?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thyeyop4x6yv7us/Advanced_Soft_Proofing_with_EIZO_CE_Monitors.mp4.zip?dl=0
These videos suggest that with the right hardware you can calibrate so that everything becomes magically simple and straight-forward. That's not really the case. With either an Eizo or your current Dell, there's no substitute for the experience of learning to interpret your soft proofs by printing a range of images and comparing. An Eizo makes it easier. I also have a makeshift viewing booth next to my monitor that helps.
---In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, <per@...> wrote :
Now, I may be dense but I am not sure I follow the statement "This is where a screen where you can calibrate the screen to simulate the paper is a big advantage, like and Eizo or NEC, as we discussed earlier." I have profiled my Dell u2413 monitor (99% AdobeRgb coverage so a capable performer, but no Eizo alas). Are you suggesting setting the ICC profile I have generated with QTR for my paper on my monitor, as opposed to having the monitor use the monitor ICC profile and PS use the paper ICC to simulate this on the monitor? Or are you suggesting something else altogether, perhaps something only available with high end monitors?
---In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, <mick.sang@...> wrote :
Holding
up the print next to the screen will NOT work. The result will always
look too dark unless you place the print in a small viewing booth
positioned beside and slightly behind the display AND the illumination
of the booth is balanced to the display in terms of brightness.
To
illustrate this, forget the image. Set your screen display to blank
white and hold a piece of the Canson Baryta next to the display. Do,
they match. NO - not in ambient room illumination. So, once you apply
ink to that, the result gets even darker.