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Preventing glop output in non-image area. was Re: borderless on QTR?

2006-01-06 by ccolbertbw

Another way that I end up using quite a bit is to change the
first value of the GLOP channel to 0. (This is on a mac
where you can edit the .quad files easily). You end up with
a small border around the image, but it doesn't try to
print the rest (blank) part of the page.

Only problem I am aware of here is if you have a 
large area of 0 value in the image, but that doesn't
happen often. If so you can adjust the output values in 
PS to prevent a 0 output value.

Costa 

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "koloshor" <koloshor@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "psideburns" <psideburns@y...> wrote:
> >
> > When will we be able to print borderless with QTR?  As a paying user I 
> > would like to request this option please.  If there is a reason we 
> > can't- let me know.
> 
> The version of the GIMPprint drivers that Roy is using won't support it.
> 
> It's not such a good idea, anyway. The Epson pigment inks (especially
> the matte black) tend to make a mess of the overspray pads in most
> Epson printers.
> 
> And it's tricky. Either you need to print exactly to the edge of the
> paper (a tiny 1/100 of an inch white border looks distracting on a
> dark image) or you need to print slightly past the edges of the paper.
> In Epson's drivers, for borderless printing they allow something on
> the order of 0.10 inches, to allow for the paper size being a little
> off, or the paper not being fed exactly from the right stop of the
> printer, or the paper not being perfectly straight and "wandering" a
> fraction of an inch while printing.
> 
> So, either you'd have to do your print scaling yourself to take this
> into consideration (i.e. scale an 8x10 borderless image up to
> 8.2x10.2, carefully maintaining "printer native" 360 or 720 dots/inch)
> or your RIP would need a high quality (expensive, or slow, or both)
> scaling algorithm.
> 
> The infamous Qimage actually has such an algorithm, and it knows how
> much overspray the Epson drivers allocate, so you can actually "hand
> tune" the amount of overspray based on how accuratly you can load
> paper, and how well the paper you use has been cut. Qimage has a
> pretty steep learning curve.
> 
> > Also is there a way to not print the gloss 
> > optimizer over the entire page even if we print a 4x6 on 8.5x11" 
> > paper?
> 
> Yes, don't tell the printer you're using 8.5x11 paper. Tell it you're
> printing a piece of paper 0.25 inches bigger than your image (that
> leaves the 1/8 inch border for the driver). For your 4x6, say you're
> printing on 4.25x6.25 paper, and QTR will print and GLOP only a 4x6
> image. Your image will not be centered on the 8.5x11 if you do this,
> it will be on the upper right corner of the page.
> 
> If you want to know how to do a 4x6 GLOP covered image in the center
> of a 8.5x11 sheet, with the glop only covering the 4x6 image, let me
> know. It's a long, complicated, and ugly procedure that I won't go
> into unless there's interest.
>

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