QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi Neil

I also have some Somerset paper but not the enhanced.  I don't think you 
will ever get real deep blacks. I've used the EEM Epson Enhanced Matte) 
profile in QTR but wasn't satisfied.  As you know QTR does not use an 
icc but you can make one with Create ICC that is included with QTR. You 
can use that ICC with PS. Another article by Paul Roark "Making a B&W 
ICC with a Scanner" is very good.  It takes you step by step through 
making the ICC.  I made one for Somerset and was very happy with the 
results.  By that I mean it was better than anything else I tried with 
Somerset.  It sure doesn't substitute for Hahnemuhle or Epson Velvet 
Fine Art.

The only problem with Paul's instructions is that his scanner software 
is not the same as mine so I had to translate  his instructions to my 
software.  Not a real problem.
A  company that sells paper used to offer profiles for Somerset at no 
charge but they were stopped for legal reasons.  Apparently the company 
that makes the profiling equipment (hardware and/or software) restricts 
the user from disseminating profiles.  I'm not clear on this but I think 
that's the gist.

Anyway, try that paper by Paul Roark if you have a scanner.  You can 
find it here:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/Making_B-W_ICCs.htm

Hope this helps
Bob



scoopneil wrote:

> Many thanks, Bob. These articles do a good job explaining the new
> photoshop workflow and then some. So lacking a specific profile for
> somerset, I tried the "let printer do it" PS CS2 workflow with
> QTR..I'm assuming this might be the correct way anyhow because QTR
> lets you apply a profile in the next step of the workflow. I tried a
> few with above mentioned paper, and while none of those included with
> QTR really made me happy, The one for UC-H_photorag seemed the closest
> on my image, but the shadow areas lacked much of the contrast and
> depth that I was hoping for. Perhaps that's just a limitation of the
> paper I'm using? I also got similar results using the epson velvet
> profiles, but these needed gamma lightening and ink limit increasing
> about 8%...The image I'm testing on has a very high overall contrast,
> with key subject areas in bright highlight, and a majority of the
> image living in the dark tones  with rather limited local contrast.
> This is just the sort of thing that makes great dramatic BW darkroom
> prints with a good paper, but I've not had much luck with these in
> epson land.I used about half of a pak of  paper to get a so so print;
> at the end I hope that whith an image of more "average" tonal range I
> will have more efficient results! I still haven't found a profile for
> this paper;if some kind soul doesn't step forward I will be forced to
> sink my teeth into icc profile creation...NOT as much fun for me as
> going out to shoot!
>
> Neil
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Bob Thompson <bobt26@e...> wrote:
> >
> > Try this for help printing from PS CS2.
> >
> > http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps9_print/ps9_print_1.htm
> >
> > Also, you may be able to glean some helpful info from this site.  Don't
> > be put off that it deals with the R220 printer and MIS Inks.  There's
> > some good information in there.
> >
> > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/R220_R2_Readme.htm
> >
> > Hope this helps some.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > scoopneil wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm new to this forum, so if this has been answered, please have
> > > patience..I did a search but nothing useful turned up.  I am trying
> > > out QTR for the first time and printing from photoshop CS2 for the
> > > first time. Using Somerset Photo Enhanced with Epson UC inks on a
> > > stylus 4000, printing from Photoshop CS2 from a Mac powerbook. I did
> > > profile the monitor and I get good results printing color from PS CS.
> > > I installed QTR & the included profiles, but did not find one for that
> > > paper. I tried picking Matte paper and the UC-EvelvetFineArt 50 50
> > > warm/cool profiles from the QTR diaog, figuring this would be close
> > > enough, but alas, my print it dark and muddy. Also I wasn't at all
> > > sure how to set the profiles for the first PS print dialog...I've just
> > > switched to PS CS2 and am confused with the changes there. What to
> > > pick under color handling? Let photoshop determine, let printer
> > > determine, or no color management? Then there is printer
> > > profile...should I pick one of those QTR profiles, use the document
> > > profile, or would I be better off making my own? I have monoco EZ
> > > color & a puck but I didn't know if this would help with QTR. Then
> > > there is the question of rendering intent. So honestly, I can't
> > > remember what I set for all this the last few attempts, so I'm ready
> > > to start again from scratch, this time taking notes! Printing color
> > > was so much easier! Any suggestions before I chew up some more
> > > expensive paper? Many thanks in advance!!!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Neil
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