QTR-Quadtone RIP

He's right. The ultrachome prints have very good longevity when doing
monochrome and with QTR you shouldn't be experiencing metamerism at
all. And, if the printer is linearized you shouldn't be seing color
content either.

If there is no gamma adjustment on their rip (hard to imagine) all you
 have to do is make a LEVELS ADJUSTMENT LAYER in Photoshop as he said,
do a test, and when satisfied drag that layer into all your files. It
sits on top as as seperate layer so you easily get back to where you
started and can finese it from there. This is actually something you
could do yourself if he will do a couple of small 5"x7" tests for you.
This is really a minor problem in the larger scheme of things.

I think you will like K6 it is very beautiful.

John



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen Photography"
<eric@...> wrote:
>
> Jim, Your image requirements 1-10 can be done with an action in PS,
> requiring little time to fulfill. Your images, which have some color
ink in
> them are showing their colors when moved from light source to light
source.
> While that might be an issue with absolute color, it does not mean
that the
> image permanence is questioned. 
> 
>  
> 
> Rather than trying a curve adjustment, how about a level adjustment
to place
> the midpoint further down the scale. Or a different curve? All these
would
> be made with custom profiles from different machine and equipment.
Was the
> Home town lab ever able to come close? Or did they stop after one try? 
> 
>  
> 
> Your original files are not being damaged by the home town lab if
you are
> bringing them in on CD/DVD, so if they can adjust your files to
match, why
> not let them? 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of jimk_clgy_ab
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:02 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Epson 7000 and K6 inks...
> 
>  
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> Please forgive me with the length of this post...
> 
> I would like to ask the group for some advice, since I have not used an
> Epson 7000 and K6 
> inks in the past, and I would like to briefly discuss what my
workflow is
> presently...
> 
> I am new to digital black and white photography, but I exhibited
work in a
> few galleries 
> over twenty years ago, presenting selenium toned prints at that
time.  Now I
> have my 4X5 
> black and white negatives drum scanned, and I am exploring the
production of
> a fine art 
> black and white print again.
> 
> That said, I currently have several images, where the images were
originally
> printed on an 
> Epson 9600 with UC inks, and using the latest ImagePrint RIP.  The
gallery,
> representing 
> me at the moment, told me to not submit any images with metamersim
and, or
> possibly a 
> coloured ink in the blacks, for esthetic and archival reasons.  They
have
> their rules, so I 
> must reprint a number of images... :)
> 
> All of my negatives were corrected to accomodate the Epson 9600, UC
inks and
> ImagePrint 
> RIP, where the Imageprint RIP has default setting of Gamma 2.2 at a
specific
> print house in 
> town.  This forced me to do the following with all of my images:
> 
> 1.    open my image in Photoshop;
> 2.    assign a Gamma of 2.2, to darken the image;
> 3.    make all of my adjustments in that space;
> 4.    remove the assigned Gamma of 2.2;
> 5.    save the image;
> 6.    reopen the image;
> 7.    do not assign a Gamma of 2.2;
> 8.    make all of the required sizing, sharpening for the image;
> 9.    save the file, with those adjustments, for the print house;
> 10.   make the print.
> 
> Voila, the image came out exactly as displayed on my calibrated monitor.
> 
> Now I have several images, which are too light to be printed
directly to any
> other printer 
> that does not have a default setting of Gamma 2.2, unless I assign
and imbed
> a Gamma 
> 2.2 into the image file.
> 
> Recently I found a print house, to accomodate the gallery's request,
that
> produced 
> exquisite images of mine, with the embedded Gamma 2.2, and that
print house
> would be 
> "Cirrus" in Portland.  They use an Epson 7600 and the Quad Tone Ink set,
> where the 
> printed image is set for selenium toning and printed on Hahnemuhle 308.
> Outstanding 
> work from Phil Bard, and associates, just absolutely outstanding.
> 
> A few days ago, I ran across a lab in my home town that makes prints
with an
> Epson 7000, 
> K6 inks, and they use the "BW Pro 24, 2001" software to driver the
printer.
> Curiosity 
> brought me in. They printed an image of mine, embedded with the
Gamma 2.2
> profile, 
> and it printed too light, compared to the prints received from Cirrus.
> 
> So, the owner operator of the Epson 7000, wanted to adjust the curve
of the
> image in 
> Photoshop, and print it again.  I did not want that to happen, since I
> believe that any curve 
> adjustment would affect the overall image in areas I did not
anticipate to
> change.  We tried 
> this approach anyway, and it did affect areas of the print I did not
want
> adjusted.
> 
> Because of this preamble, and because I have several results from a few
> printers and 
> different papers, I would like to know the following for the Epson
7000 and
> K6 inks:
> 
> 1.  Is there another solution and, or updated software for this printer 
>     and ink set, that would allow the use of imbedded information?
> 
> 2.  Should I create another set of images, where the image would be 
>     a straight through print?
> 
> 3.  Is there an esoteric method that would be brilliant and simple?
> 
> The second point means reworking all of my images, and it is not an
avenue
> that I 
> contemplate enjoying.
> 
> But then again, I have "Cirrus and Phil Bard" as my primary source of
> printing.
> 
> Again, please forgive me, regarding the length of this post...
> 
> I'm just curious,
> 
> 
> jim k
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