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Re: different printers - same ink - different density?

2006-09-19 by Scott Graham

you might compare your numbers to a piece of Illford Silver Gelatin paper if you can find 
one around, just for curiousity of course.

When I finally switched to digital printing on a 4000, I found that the blacks were both 
darker and colder than the Illford darkroom paper, and this was even on Epson Enhanced 
Matte.  So I was thrilled, after getting rid of the cyan of course, and never even got beyond 
a few simple experiments with QTR.  Framed behind glass they look fantastic.  at least one 
person thinks so :)

the K3 photoblack on luster is even better.  

one caveat, after years of obsessing, I determined this all by eye rather than measurement.  
So the numbers?  don't know.  The results as art do know.

Take care
Scott

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Ian Christie <ichristie@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. i guess it's really academic anyway. i've been obsessing over the dmax thing a 
bit because i'm used to the intense blacks i got from the dye inks on the 1270. i thought 
switching to a b&w inkset would improve my prints in all regards but came away thinking 
"nice greys but where's the black?"
>  
>  i think my new plan is to make two copies. one with ut-2 and eboni black for archive 
and one copy with ut-2 and dye black for short-term display.
> 
> dlruckus <dlruckus@...> wrote:                                  The differences you are seeing 
may well be less than you think.
>  Depending on your densitometer, they might be within it's measurement
>  tolerances. Also different printers are very unlikely to give exact
>  matches. There are differences in max/min dot sizes, possible head
>  voltage diferences, age and head wear differences between the two
>  printers, the fact that the two printers were designed for different
>  inks to begin with and a host of other variables. In actuality you are
>  getting very good results with both in terms of d'max.
>  
>  Regards
>  Duane
>   
>  
>  --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Christie" <ichristie@> wrote:
>  >
>  >  
>  > 
>  > Please excuse the novice question but I'm a little puzzled -
>  > 
>  >  
>  > 
>  > I have an Epson 1270 that I've had for a while. It has made some
>  nice prints
>  > but the fading issue prompted me to replace it with an Epson R1800.
>  Then I
>  > had the idea of buying a pigment b&w ink set and dedicating the 1270
>  to b&w
>  > printing.
>  > 
>  >  
>  > 
>  > I'm using MIS Eboni ink in both printers for matte black. When I
>  print in
>  > calibration mode on the same paper (Hahnemuhle PR BW) The Epson 1270
>  black
>  > strip maxes out at 1.70 while the r1800 goes to about 1.74. Each
>  printer is
>  > set for its highest resolution and lower speed.
>  > 
>  >  
>  > 
>  > Is this typical that some printers might achieve higher densities
>  with the
>  > same inks?
>  > 
>  >  
>  > 
>  > Thanks,
>  > 
>  > Ian.
>  > 
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