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Re: Changing curves of NK-7 advice requested

2006-10-11 by joemulligan_68

Thanks Terry for the response.  I thought I may be the only one getting this result.  I've 
tried practically all curves that come with the R1800 and all have the same problem.  If the 
transition between highlight and shadow is abrupt, NK-7 doesn't seem to handle this well. 
Hope some others can provide some advice before I attempt making my own curves for 
this.
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Ritz" <t.ritz@...> wrote:
>
> Joe, I just started using the NK7 inks in a 2200. I had some feedback
> from a customer that seems similar. I made a sample print for an
> artist from a scan of his pencil drawing. I provided QTR samples made
> using K2 inks (K and LK) and K7 inks. I have been working with him for
> quite some time, trying to match my print tonality to his original. He
> of course preferred the K7 smoothness but also noted that the
> transition in the lightest highlights seemed abrupt. He did not see
> this in the K2 print. Much of the tonality in his drawing falls into
> the midrange and highlight areas btw. I have not noticed this in my
> photos yet, but that may be because I have not printed an image that
> hits this the right way.
> 
> You could play with the gamma slider but I doubt that would help. I
> think your only option is to create your own curve. Might be a bit
> tricky, given the number of inks and the need to have the cross overs
> carefully defined.
> 
> Let us know what you end up doing.
> 
> Terry.
> 
> "joemulligan_68" <joemulligan_68@> wrote:
> >
> > Wanted to throw a question at more experienced QTR users.  I
> currently run Cone NK-7 / 
> > R1800 / OSX.  I had better results running a Quad setup rather than
> the 7 inks because the 
> > quads, believe it or not, gave smoother transitions from highlight
> to shadow.  NK-7 should 
> > be better in theory but I feel like the light to mid positions lack
> density.  I see this especially 
> > when printing images that move quickly from highlight to shadow,
> such as strong lighting in 
> > portraiture.  The NK-7 prints have so little ink in the highlights
> that they look blown out.  The 
> > shadows on the other hand look like they run a strong line when next
> to blown out 
> > highlights.  I get better prints even using the Epson ABW on a 7800
> possibly because the 
> > highs and mids have more density.  
> > 
> > So my question to the group, is how do you change the density of the
> NK-7 curves provided 
> > by Cone?  I thought I read somewhere that they were proprietary. 
> Has anyone else made 
> > their own NK-7 curves on a R1800?  I already tried the QTR icc route
> but it didn't solve the 
> > problem.  Has anyone else seen this problem also?
>

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