QTR-Quadtone RIP

Frans

In a nutshell, this isn't so.

If you use a curve for a paper ink combination for which it was
designed, you should be able to get the deepest blacks possible witth
that printer/paper/ink and it should be much more neutral (or
consistently toned) than a print using the Epson driver. There are
many expert B&W printers who extoll the benefits of QTR

I can't see your Epson results; I can't see your QTR results and I
don't know the conditions under which you are viewing prints and the
monitor. All I can do is explain the process as best I can. That I've
done. I can also urge you to keep trying QTR, because I know it works.

Good luck

Tom Moore

I should also point out that, of course, you can tweak the image while
viewing it using the softproof for the paper you plan to print it on. 

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "fwaterlander" <frans2001@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> 
> Yes, when I use the Gray Matte Paper profile for Soft Proofing a 
> grayscale image or RGB Matte Paper profile for Soft Proofing an RGB 
> image, then indeed I see the flattening. However, this doesn't 
> resolve the issue; it only shows what I perceive as a major 
> deficiency in QTR, namely the severe degradation of the image when 
> printed. When I use the Epson driver, I don't get such degradation, 
> although I get some coloration that I am trying to avoid by using QTR.
> 
> So, is this the best I can expect of QTR without creating my own 
> special curves (something I want to avoid doing like the plague) or 
> tweak every image for overall brightness, shadow darkness and 
> contrast before printing with QTR?
> 
> Please tell me this isn't so!
> 
> Frans Waterlander
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@> wrote:
> >
> > Frans
> > 
> > If Simulate Black Ink is grayed out, I suspect that when you are 
> setting up
> > the View/Proof Setup/Custom... window, you are selecting QTR-RGB-
> LAB in the
> > Device to Simulate pull-down. You need to select a printing 
> profile. The
> > generic matte one would be QTR-RGB-Matte Paper. Then you should be 
> able to
> > select Simulate Black Ink - at least I can. It causes a noticeable 
> change in
> > the visible image.
> > 
> > If you create a profile for your specific Printer/Ink/Paper 
> combination you
> > will also be able to select Simulate Paper Color. This causes an 
> even more
> > noticeable change. My prints are quite close to my monitor soft 
> proof this
> > way.
> > 
> > Tom Moore
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of fwaterlander
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:08 PM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Why are Epson 2200 prints too dark
> > > 
> > > Tom,
> > > 
> > > Why is there no mention in the QTRgui Help or User guide about 
> what
> > > resolution the profiles are based on or how to modify your image 
> for
> > > different resolutions and how did you find out?
> > > 
> > > I get excellent monitor-to-print matching using the Epson driver 
> for
> > > both color and b&w images. Of course the Epson driver has its
> > > limitations for b&w images that I hope to overcome with QTR.
> > > 
> > > When I use the Proof Colors feature in my PS CS per your 
> suggestions
> > > (Simulate Black Ink is grayed out), I do not see any change when
> > > toggling between straight display mode and Proof Colors mode.
> > > 
> > > Your help is greatly appreciated.
> > > 
> > > Frans Waterlander
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > >
> >
>