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Re: Ink Separation Page for use in calibration mode, for reading via an X-Rite P

2007-03-08 by Jamie Creed

Hi Leen

if you drop me an email, I'll be able to get my ink seperation page 
to you, along with some useful tips on how to use it. Are you aware 
that you need a second colour printer inorder to print out the TID 
and RID strips before printing the seperation page from within QTR, 
and it's rather intricate since you need to create a target via 
colorport, but it can be done. For most people I would imagine it is 
all to much trouble, and I would agree, but It suits me just fine as 
I'm interested to see what each ink is made up of in terms of Lab a 
and b (and how the values drift over time.) Anyway, enough of my 
ranting; if you want me to help you to try and do it yourself, just 
get in touch,

Jamie

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "leenvanbellen" 
<leenvanbellen@...> wrote:
>
> Jamie,
> 
> Where can I download this ink seperation page?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Leen
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Creed" <jlcreed@> wrote:
> >
> > Cheers Joe
> > 
> > you've just confirmed what I arrived at earlier this week. I 
have 
> > now produced the Ink Seperation Page for use with an X-Rite 
Pulse. 
> I 
> > use Colorport to produce the target, then I seperated the target 
> > into 2 parts; firstly, the TID which I printout on a colour 
> printer; 
> > and secondly, the ink seperation patches (6 x 21 step wedges) 
for 
> > use by QTR with my monochrome ink printer. Now I can read all 
the 
> > patches of the Ink Seperation Page in less than a minute, and 
enjoy 
> > the privilage of looking at the Lab values of the inks before I 
> > start creating curves. Also thanks to Winfried I also enjoy 
reading 
> > my various 21 step curve iterations in doule quick time. Again, 
> > thanks for your reply,
> > 
> > Jamie.
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "koloshor" <koloshor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Creed" <jlcreed@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've referred to both of your work/files before I started 
this 
> > > > little project, and they were both very helpful and led 
to      
> > > > success 
> > > > in scanning the 21 step wedge with my Pulse setup.
> > > > 
> > > > Now I want to try and go 1 step further and try to scan the 
Ink 
> > > > limiting/curve creation targets in calibration mode with 
my     
> > > > Pulse 
> > > > setup. At the moment I do as you do Ernst and spot scan a 
> random 
> > > > number of patch's which visually look close to the Ink 
> Limits,   
> > > > but being able to scan all patchs in 1 swoop would be good 
use  
> > > > of my equipment and would enable me to monitor suppliers 
ink    
> > > > formulations for any variance and also keep an eye on the 
paper 
> > > > suppliers coatings, again for any variance in production 
batchs.
> > > >
> > > First, QTR targets are "weird". Only two of the three colors 
are
> > > actually used. If memory serves, the red channel is the 
density,
> > > 0-255. (you can check this easily in PhotoShop). I think the 
blue
> > > channel is the "ink selector". The selector is binary...
> > > 
> > > 1 = ink 1
> > > 2 = ink 2
> > > 4 = ink 3
> > > 8 = ink 4
> > > 16 = ink 5
> > > 32 = ink 6
> > > 64 = ink 7
> > > 128 = ink 8
> > > 
> > > If you want to do something like having equal parts of two 
inks, 
> > turn two channels on at the same time by adding their numbers.
> > The big question, are you using cyan, magenta, yellow, and black 
> > inks,or a pure monochrome set? The Pulse reads a strip at the 
top 
> of 
> > the chart called the "Target ID", or TID, that's in an octal 
(base 
> > 8) code of cyan, magenta, and yellow. The TID tells the pulse 
how 
> > many patches there are in each row, and on the chart, in total. 
> > The "Row ID" at the beginning of each row identifies the row 
> number. 
> > The TID and RID need to be in the right colors. If you're using 
> > color inks, use a density of 128 and use the selectors to get 
the 
> > proper CMYKRGBW codes. You can't print them TID or RID with 
> > monochrome inks. So if you're using a monochrome inkset, you 
need 
> to 
> > print a TID and RID on a color printer, at the proper size, and 
> glue 
> > it over the monochrome chart.
> > 
> > Or make a chart for the color printer with just a TID and RID, no
> > patches, and a chart for the monochrome printer with just 
patches, 
> no
> > TID or RID, and run the paper through both printers. Frankly, I 
find
> > cutouts easier.
> > > 
> > > Ciao!
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
>

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