Joost & Others, I do not want this to divert from your current question about the two workflows you mentioned, but I have a different approach and maybe someone can tell me if I am doing something wrong. I have used QTR for so long for B&W that I do not even remember if I paid Roy Harrington for the privilege or not (Roy, if you read this and can go back in your records, please replay off line if your discover I have not paid). It is well worth the small cost. I have tried the methods you have listed and found that to me, much of this is not required for me to obtain quality prints. I understand the word "quality" is in the eyes of the beholder, but I have had B&W prints in exhibitions that were printed using my method in QTR with no complaints from anyone. Here is my most current method to achieve Black & White prints: 1) Keep my monitor calibrated (using Spyder) 2) Process image using Lightroom, CS3, & Photokit Sharpener.(All in Adobe RBG workspace) 2a. Use Lightroom to convert to B&W (Before this I used CS2 & Channel Mixer Adjustment Layer) 3) No SoftProofing (I have found that what I see no my monitor is very close to what prints out in QTR) 4) Save a TIF file, flatten image (I do NOT convert to 8 bit + image file retains the color channels) 5) Print image with QTR GUI The only difference in my printing workflow between color & B&W is that for color I do not display the image in B&W in Lightroom & I print color through PhotoShop using the Epson driver. As stated earlier, I have not seen any benefit of doing additional steps. I use paper profiles I have obtained from other. I am sure that since I do not have dosimeters nor other scientific methods of measuring the exact results, some of the additional steps could be beneficial, but I really cannot see it for my self right now. Hope someone can enlighten me if I am really missing something here? It seems that the only way to be sure, is for others to print the same exact image on the same exact papers using the different methods. If that image could be posted so that other then would print the same image (without any alteration), then it could be determined if most other have the same result. I am suggesting this to compare QTR processes to each other, NOT differneces in printer models. Thanks! Bruce http://BruceVarner.com/ ___________________________________________ --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Joost Horsten" <j.h.j.h@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > In view of the confusion we had lately on this forum on the different > QTR workflows, I decided to do a small experiment, comparing two > workflows.............. > >Joost
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Re: softproofing vs. converting: an experiment
2007-03-11 by btvarner
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