On Dec 30, 2007 2:00 AM, ferdinand_paris <ferdinand_paris@...> wrote: > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote: > > And now that Mike has released v200, all your tests may change with > > the next upgrade. Darn frustrating : ( > > At the risk of someone thinking that I've become obsessive about this, > I did indeed rerun these tests. Qimage 2008.200 results are at: > > http://www.ferdinand-paris.com/BPC-Qimage_V3.png > > The only one that has changed compared to my V2 histograms from > 2008.109 is converting to a generic profile in Qimage without BPC, > which now has a very large amount of black point clipping. I don't > recall seeing any CM changes flagged in the release notes. > > So now there is some reverse symmetry. If you convert to a generic > QTR profile in Qimage, you *must* use BPC or else you will see a lot > of shadow blocking. On the other hand if you convert to a custom > profile (or at least mine), then you should *not* use BPC or else you > will get a big dMax loss. > > Go figure! > > F_P > > I've got a new version of Create-ICC that might help in this. Download: http://www.quadtonerip.com/QTR-Create-ICC-BPC.exe This maps black to black on both directions of the profile. What this gives up is soft-proofing with Simulate Ink Black. The benefit though is my tests with Photoshop show identical results for all combinations of Perceptual & Relative Intent and BPB on or off and with different CMSs on the Mac. I'm interested in any findings you guys get. I highly recommend using a 21step wedge to do this. Cut out just the steps so you have a perfect comb in the histogram. Then you can see if the results are the same. (+/- 1 level is OK). With PS I used 16bit and the histo-results were 100% identical. I'd also go with a simple made up custom profile such as "20 96" which shows significant movement in the histo. Roy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Qimage BPC cutting Dmax ?
2007-12-31 by Roy Harrington
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