>I have a R1800 I want to convert to black and white only. >I saw the option for UTBO at inksupply.com and it looks >nice but to me it looks like its just using 3 of the same >black inks. Is this true? Yes, for a full write up see http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.htm The point of that inkset was to obtain a relatively neutral 100% carbon inkset. The "blended" inksets (where color inks are mixed with carbon) are, in my view, a compromise I'm no longer willing to make in my work. The 1800 was the first printer with the 1.5 pl droplet that made reasonably smooth prints. There is a comparison of smoothness in my write-up. Still, of course, it's not going to be as smooth as an inkset that uses dilute inks. >Is there an option out there that you can buy that uses >7 or all 8 carts to get a really nice good black and white print? The problem with dilute 100% carbon is that it gets warm. However, what I found is that it's the base as much as the version of carbon used that makes the image warm. So, taking the most neutral carbon I could find -- MIS Eboni -- I searched for a base that could keep it at least somewhat neutral. The results of this search are the Eboni-6 and Carbon-6 inksets. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf and http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf I've "moth-balled" my 1800 and now use these two inkset exclusively. You can see in my write-ups the tones that I'm achieving. It's very dependent on the paper used. As a practical matter, while there is always an increase in Lab B relative to the paper base, however, with a brightened paper the Lab B can be held down to near 0 -- depending in part on the printer and profile. The smaller the droplet, and warmer carbon gets. So, with an 1800, using the most "neutral" paper -- Premier Art Smooth BW -- the Lab B can be held to about 1. (On my 1400, which also has a 1.5 pl droplet size, Lab B with Eboni-6 is 0.74 at 50% and peaks at 1.26 at 65%.) The Carbon-6 wetting agent (Photo Flo) is not good enough for the 1.5 pl printers, but the Eboni-6 wetting agent is. Also, some have experimented with other wetting agents that produce very smooth prints in an 1800. See http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/9293 0 on the Yahoo B&W digital print forum: "...I tried a 50-50 mix of Ecover Rinse Aid and Nature Clean Rinse Agent bought at local grocery store. ... Banding is now gone. Zero. Nothing. Even under a magnifying glass." This was on an 1800. I've used some strong Dow surfactants and obtained smooth results also. (The author of the B&W Digital Print forum note might be willing to share his profiles also. I don't have any for the 1800 with dilute carbon inks.) Bottom line, with QTR the 1800 can make very good 100% carbon prints -- if Eboni-6 or a powerful enough wetting agent is used with the Carbon-6 home-brew approach. Let us know what you end up doing and how it works. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Options for R1800??
2008-08-13 by Paul Roark
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