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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Quick question about UTBO (R1800)

2008-08-15 by Shane Jordan

Paul,

Thanks for clearing that up. I really like the option of going with  
the Eboni-6 for my R1800. However, I do have a few questions on that  
(sorry I am asking so many!).

1) Is it easy to profile these inks? I don't  have any sort of  
calibration unit. The only thing I have is a scanner. I plan to use  
rag based papers or maybe Barayta style papers (if they will work with  
this ink).

2) I see the eboni-6 uses 6 inks. What position would I put everything  
in on my R1800? What about the 2 extra's left? Do I just put blanks  
carts in there, or will I need something to stop it from drying out  
the heads of the printer?

Thanks,
Shane Jordan



Quoting Paul Roark <paul.roark@...>:

> The Eboni-6 inks are a little warmer in the 1.5 pl printers.  However, I've
> found that with appropriate profiling I've been able to hold the Lab B of
> Premier Art Smooth BW down to Lab B = 1.  So, I assume that could also be
> done on the 1800.
>
>
>
> Carbon-6 is not recommended for the 1800 due to its surfactant (Photo Flo)
> being too weak.  However, stronger surfactants take care of that banding
> problem.  Eboni-6 has a good one that works well with the 1.5 pl printers.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
>
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>   _____
>
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of linuxgangster
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:04 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Quick question about UTBO (R1800)
>
>
>
> Thanks Paul. I recall you saying that you don't suggest the EB6 inks
> for the R1800 in here somewhere. Why is that?
>
> Shane
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
> "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >If I were to purchase the UTBO set for my R1800 the 3 inks
>> >would go in the K, PK and GLOP position.
>>
>> >How is this different then just putting 1 ink in the K position?
>>
>> The reason 3 inks were used in the 1800 "UTBO" or "3-MK" process is
> that 3
>> were needed to suppress banding.
>>
>> > I want to convert my r1800, but I want to be able to get
>> > a really nice smooth black and white. Without
>> > grays in the mix or a diluted version (for lighter blacks)
>> > I don't understand how the UTBO will do a good job of this.
>>
>> You can see the smoothness comparison -- to a certain extend -- in
> the scan
>> at http://www.paulroar
> <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800-Image-Structure.pdf>
> k.com/BW-Info/R1800-Image-Structure.pdf (My main
>> write-up of the approach is at
> http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.htm>
> k.com/BW-Info/R1800.htm )
>>
>> If color printing is not needed, there is another 100% carbon
> approach --
>> Eboni-6 -- that will also work in the 1800. See
>> http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf>
> k.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf
>>
>> I have not make any profiles for Eboni-6 and the 1800. You can see from
>> page 9 of the Eboni-6 PDF that the dilute inks can, obviously, make an
>> extremely smooth print.
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>
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