Paul, Thanks so much for doing this. I am eager to see how well this works out. Once you get it going and working well, will I be able to call inksupply.com and have them send me the same thing you did? I think this will be a great option for R1800 users. Right now the only good option for smooth b&w (of this level) is with the K7 set. Everyone says to go buy a r1400, but I have 2 r1800 and rather use it then buying another printer. --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > Shane, > > > Any word on this? I am interested as well. Right now I am still > > trying to decide between this, GQ2 and piezography set. > > MIS is sending me Eboni-6/1800 carts today. Using my 1400 as a test bed, I > think I have an ink arrangement and QTR profile structure that will work. > For the 1800 I'll double up on the Y and LM (lightest inks) and keep the > 3-MK as is (MK, PK, and GL). This should allow us to overcome the 1800's > banding problems. > > The trick with the 1.5 PL printers is to hold down the increase in Lab B > from the carbon. By avoiding the middle dilution (warmest) inks (LC and M), > I've been able to hold Lab B on Premier Art Smooth BW to about 1 in the > midtones. > > It's rather interesting how the arrangement evolved. I started out seeing > how much I could do with just the lightest ink -- Eb6-Y -- and Eboni MK. > They are the "coolest" of the carbon inks. Eb6-Y on PA BW goes to about Lab > B = 0 and just stays there. So, I used as much of that as I could. Then I > added only those inks needed to close the gap between this Y and the Eboni > so as to make a totally smooth print. LM, the next lightest ink goes to a > max of about Lab B=1 on PA BW. I tried to go from that straight to Eboni, > but on close inspection I could still see some roughness. So, I sprinkled > in just enough Eb6-C to hide that. So, there are basically 4 dilutions of > Eboni-6 used -- that is, it ended up a classic "quad." > > On the 1800, I'll just stick redundant Y and LM inks in the Blue and Red > spots to hide the banding and keep my preferred tonality. (For those who > want greater warmth Eboni LC and M could be installed, and profiles can be > written to use more of the warmer inks. Paper choice, of course, is the > main factor in tone control with Eboni-6.) I'm hopeful on the 1900 banding > will not be a problem, and we'll be able to use the large number of ink > positions to do something interesting. > > At any rate, aside from using the dilutions that MIS already has on the > self, this effort started with a clean piece of paper. What's rather > interesting is that the final result looks a whole lot like the original > PiezoBW quad arrangement -- 2 very light inks, then a large dilution gap to > a rather dark C and MK. > > I've pulled my 1800 out of storage and will set it up with this Eboni-6 > arrangement. With the 3-MK still in it, I'll be curious how the QTR sliders > work to allow further tone control. Needless to say, at least on the 1400, > the Eb6-quad setup makes extremely smooth prints. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com >
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Re: Quick question about UTBO (R1800)
2008-08-18 by linuxgangster
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