This is an interesting experiment. I regularly use a 3800 with K3 inks and QTR. So I tried a few prints. These are Harman paper with photo black. Here are three scans -- scanned at 3200, sharped like Paul's and reduced to 1600dpi. 1) My regular setup: 1440super, bi-directional, mixture of curves. 2) 2880dpi, uni-directional, same curves, these have a little too much ink so: 3) 2880dpi, uni-directional, same curves, but the image density was reduced. See: http://www.harrington.com/restest1.jpg It looks to me that the biggest issue is using 2880dpi for printing. Roy On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote: > >>If this now famous 1 pt image file would be made available >>we could make our own opinion. > > I've used resolution test files for some time that I simply make in > Photoshop. I believe the top resolution of the Epson driver is 720 ppi, so > that is what the file is. It can be downloaded at > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Resolution-chart-720ppi.jpg > (There does not appear to be any difference between this Jpeg and the Tiff > original.) The file is 1" x 0.3". > > I've added a "one point" text sample to this. There are 72 points per inch > in the current U.S. method, according to Wikipedia > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)) So one point text is 10 > pixels high in a 720 ppi file. This includes the top of the tallest capital > letter and the lowest tail, in addition to a 1 pixel top margin. This is > really small. I used the PS text function to make 10 point text in a file > that was 7200 ppi and then resized to 720 ppi. I made one of the text > sections with no anti-aliasing, and one with "crisp" anti-aliasing. Given > the few pixels involved, neither is particularly good even on the monitor. > > Evaluating the printed images is tough if one does not have a very good > scanner. Seeing the details is a bit beyond the limits of my 1600 dpi Epson > flatbed, but after sharpening 125% PS, one can start to evaluate the > relative quality of the printing. > See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Resolution-comparison.jpg > > I've included a screen grab of the Piezo test in the above image. > > A drum scanner is really needed for this task. On the other hand, with a > good loupe, one can see more than my scanner, and the text is actually > readable -- with some effort. > > The bottom line I saw was that with the 2200 and 1400, with Carbon-7 and > Eboni-6, respectively, and using the Epson driver and QTR, the one point > type is reasonably clear with all of the above combinations. There is no > significant difference between the Epson driver and QTR. The 1400 is a bit > sharper than the 2200, but in normal viewing, one would not see any > difference. The Piezo printing from the test on the web appears to be in > the same league with what I see with the Epson driver or QTR and the inksets > I use. > > I do not have a K3 ABW setup to test. It would be interesting to see a good > scan of a print of the above test chart with K3 ABW. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: is Piezography inkset/concept dead?
2008-08-30 by Roy Harrington
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